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Boys to men: Why guys aren’t growing up (Career aimlessness and beer and porn culture)
MSNBC ^ | 8/27/08

Posted on 08/31/2008 6:10:00 AM PDT by Libloather

Boys to men: Why guys aren’t growing up
Career aimlessness and beer and porn culture define ‘Guyland’
updated 10:41 a.m. ET, Wed., Aug. 27, 2008

After interviewing hundreds of 16- to 26-year-olds across the U.S., sociologist and gender studies expert Michael Kimmel found a trend of “guy” culture that is marked by the inability to have healthy relationships with women, murky career goals, and the desire not to grow up. In his new book “Guyland,” Kimmel writes about why many young men are trapped between adolescence and adulthood. An excerpt.

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Today, many of these young men, poised between adolescence and adulthood, are more likely to feel anxious and uncertain. In college, they party hard but are soft on studying. They slip through the academic cracks, another face in a large lecture hall, getting by with little effort and less commitment. After graduation, they drift aimlessly from one dead-end job to another, spend more time online playing video games and gambling than they do on dates (and probably spend more money too), “hook up” occasionally with a “friend with benefits,” go out with their buddies, drink too much, and save too little. After college, they perpetuate that experience and move home or live in group apartments in major cities, with several other guys from their dorm or fraternity. They watch a lot of sports. They have grandiose visions for their futures and not a clue how to get from here to there. When they do try and articulate this amorphous uncertainty, they’re likely to paper over it with a simple “it’s all good.”

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The "ME" generation would grow up faster if the parents would stop paying for everything.

Long four page piece at the link above.

1 posted on 08/31/2008 6:10:01 AM PDT by Libloather
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Just another failure of liberalism. Where men aren’t men anymore...


2 posted on 08/31/2008 6:12:34 AM PDT by DB
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To: Libloather
Today, many of these young men, poised between adolescence and adulthood, are more likely to feel anxious and uncertain. In college, they party hard but are soft on studying. They slip through the academic cracks, another face in a large lecture hall, getting by with little effort and less commitment. After graduation, they drift aimlessly from one dead-end job to another, spend more time online playing video games and gambling than they do on dates (and probably spend more money too), “hook up” occasionally with a “friend with benefits,” go out with their buddies, drink too much, and save too little. After college, they perpetuate that experience and move home or live in group apartments in major cities, with several other guys from their dorm or fraternity. They watch a lot of sports. They have grandiose visions for their futures and not a clue how to get from here to there. When they do try and articulate this amorphous uncertainty, they’re likely to paper over it with a simple “it’s all good.”

Except for the video stuff, you could have overlaid this quote on any random generation. How much was paid for this study?

3 posted on 08/31/2008 6:14:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: DB

so some stories from MSM we believe other we dont its really arbitrary

and where are all the amazing women, if the guys are watching all this porn whos producing it nuns?


4 posted on 08/31/2008 6:15:17 AM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: Libloather

What losers. If dad yanked the credit card, they’d all be lost.


5 posted on 08/31/2008 6:18:28 AM PDT by itsthejourney
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To: Flavius
Unfortunately I know a number of boys who should be men by now. So I believe it because it rings true.
6 posted on 08/31/2008 6:18:55 AM PDT by DB
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It’s really called no discipline.

Now, the “guys” are more concerned with going to Obama rallies. P*ssies.

In years past, when you didn’t have any discipline, your Dad beat your ass until you straightened up or you went into the service.

Raising a culture of freakin’ sissies.


7 posted on 08/31/2008 6:22:13 AM PDT by mattdono (Only Lot will be left.)
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Our son is 13 years old. He has known, since kindergarten, that when he turns 18 he will be OUT of this house and into college or the military and on with his life. Me and his daddy got some things we want to catch up on.


8 posted on 08/31/2008 6:23:29 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Libloather

I recently learned that most state universities are populated by a majority of women, with statistics like 65% women, 35% men attending them. Where are the men? It’s curious. But, watching how the female-dominated education profession treats even the youngest of boys, one can see—our culture does not want boys to become men. Too bad!


9 posted on 08/31/2008 6:25:26 AM PDT by browniexyz
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i couldn’t wait to get out!


10 posted on 08/31/2008 6:25:42 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: mattdono

Yep. My parents told me that they would help me (I still had to get a job & pay for my car, clothes & insurance) - but they would help me while I was in school as long as I was making good grades. But once I left school, for whatever reason - I was on my own. No coming back home to mommy & daddy - I was to make it on my own. I knew they meant it too!


11 posted on 08/31/2008 6:26:55 AM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: Libloather

Thet danged younger gen’ration is goin’ to hell in a handbasket, I tell yuh. Why, I heard a young whippersnapper at the Gen’ral Store sayin’ thet he agreed thet women should have the vote! What’s the danged world comin’ too?


12 posted on 08/31/2008 6:27:43 AM PDT by Seruzawa (American Government: Providing Middle Class Incomes to Unemployables for Over 200 Years!)
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"In years past, when you didn’t have any discipline, your Dad beat your ass until you straightened up or you went into the service."(emphasis added)

Nail...meet hammer!

13 posted on 08/31/2008 6:30:18 AM PDT by Roccus (People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient....then repent.)
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Sounds about right for some I know, but I've encountered far too many young folks who most certainly don't fit that description. They're the ones who've been proudly wearing a uniform since graduation. Others I've encountered on college campuses are clear-eyed and tightly focused on their futures. They know where they're headed and know how to get there. Yep, no doubt there'll be a sizable number of slackers in every herd, but by and large, the kids these days are alright. They'll do just fine.
14 posted on 08/31/2008 6:30:55 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Libloather
gender studies expert Michael Kimmel

Oh brother.

15 posted on 08/31/2008 6:32:01 AM PDT by relictele
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...been on campus lately?....seen the way the coeds dress now days?....it’s a lot different than when I was in school...no wonder some of these guys just want to party.


16 posted on 08/31/2008 6:32:05 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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.....sociologist and gender studies expert .....

This guy slipped through the occupational crack into a never never land of psudoscience and pretendstudy. He is a joke. His conclusions and writings are drivel, pure balderdash.


17 posted on 08/31/2008 6:34:16 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Libloather

Incredibly depressing. But I’ll say one thing: it makes being a 43 year old cat lady with a decent job feel like an accomplishment.


18 posted on 08/31/2008 6:36:54 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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In my neighborhood, its simply impossible to find a teenager willing to make $30/hour helping me with odd jobs around my house. They get all their money from Mommy and Daddy, so why work? When my toddlers get to be that age, they will be working for me, and others if requested.

On the other hand, if a child is raised properly and can be trusted to be responsible, and the college offers a serious education, I think a parent should pay for his college education if able.


19 posted on 08/31/2008 6:37:53 AM PDT by dinoparty
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Peter Pan with no incentive to grow-up, there is always someone there to take care of you.


20 posted on 08/31/2008 6:40:13 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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