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Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"? Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
Dandelion Salad ^ | 9/08/2008 | Gina Cavallaro

Posted on 09/28/2008 10:08:19 AM PDT by Oyarsa

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To: sobieski

I do not agree with you and there are many others that feel as I do. For one are our military. My kids are army and they love President Bush and will fight you tooth and nail in defending him.


61 posted on 09/28/2008 3:08:06 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield
I do not agree with you and there are many others that feel as I do.

Some just live in denial I guess. Bush's 8 years has been a travesty to the conservative movement.
62 posted on 09/28/2008 3:14:31 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: mysterio

President Bush Signs H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 into Law

Today, I have signed into law H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008. The Act authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, for military construction, and for national security-related energy programs.

Provisions of the Act, including sections 841, 846, 1079, and 1222, purport to impose requirements that could inhibit the President’s ability to carry out his constitutional obligations to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, to protect national security, to supervise the executive branch, and to execute his authority as Commander in Chief. The executive branch shall construe such provisions in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

January 28, 2008.


63 posted on 09/28/2008 3:20:54 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never mess with an old man, he will just kill you.)
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To: randomhero97

My son in law is a MI officer in the Army...my daughter has her masters in education...neither one of them are dummies in the least and they’ll fight you defending President Bush. Denial is not a term I’d use on either one of them.


64 posted on 09/28/2008 3:23:09 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Yes, scary isn't it?

The vote breakdown:
House of Reps. - 369 Ayes 46 Nays 15 Present/Not Voting
Senate - 91 Ayes 3 Nays 6 Present/Not Voting
65 posted on 09/28/2008 3:27:00 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Oyarsa

This is nothing new. Every 1950’s sci-fi flick shows giant spiders, bugs, aliens battling the US army on our home turf.


66 posted on 09/28/2008 3:27:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: livius
but it is possible that it is because of the chance of a major terrorist attack around the time of the elections.

That is the reason we have a military after all, to protect the country against *foreign* threats to our security.

67 posted on 09/28/2008 3:30:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: randomhero97
Are you kidding?

The federal government is the wrong hands.

68 posted on 09/28/2008 3:30:48 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: shield
Look, I served in the military under both Clinton and Bush. Clinton was/is a POS towards the military there's no denying that. However, all of the so called conservatives/Republicans were up in arms over the political military operation in Bosnia.

Why can't the same happen for the current situation as well. People have to start looking at things objectively and not be so partisan.
69 posted on 09/28/2008 3:32:04 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: shield

Oh yeah, how’s your son liking MI? I know quite of few intel guys and they seem to like it. Very marketable career in the corporate arena.


70 posted on 09/28/2008 3:36:02 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Oyarsa
I wasn’t aware that “armytimes.com” (the original source for the story I provided) was a “troofer” site.

Almost worse than that, it's a Gannett subsidiary. Gannett does not allow FR to even post excerpts from it's stories. It's stories are often calculated to make the Military look bad. Even though it's sold in the BX/PX on all military installations (or it's sister pubs Navy and Air Force Times). They even sell it at Wally World near military bases.

71 posted on 09/28/2008 3:42:04 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: randomhero97

He is career military and loves what he is doing. He returned not long ago from ‘Stan. As far as his security clearance is concerned its worth lots of $$$’s. If and when he retires...that clearance will give him a great advantage. For now they are at Bragg and are very content.


72 posted on 09/28/2008 3:44:28 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

Yep, the clearance is worth a degree in itself.


73 posted on 09/28/2008 3:46:59 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: El Gato
That is the reason we have a military after all, to protect the country against *foreign* threats to our security.

I swore to defend against **all** threats - not just foreign ones.

There is a misconception about posse comittatus - it does ***not*** forbid all domestic operations. Posse commitatus only forbids the use of the Army for law enforcement - and that can be overridden by a Congressional authorization. The Insurrection Act is one such Congressional authorization.

74 posted on 09/28/2008 3:48:37 PM PDT by jude24
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To: ansel12
We need a part of the military that is prepared to bring expertise to a situation such as a domestic nuclear explosion or an EMP attack, and we need a specially trained force that can fill in when a city’s or a region’s police force and firefighter force is dead or effectively destroyed and their equipment and infrastructure eliminated.

we have such a part of the military. It's called the National Guard. They have always been exempt from the Posse Commitatus act, when not federalized.

However that 2007 amendment to the Insurrection at, is also an exception to PC, and scares the snot out of me, should BHO become President.

75 posted on 09/28/2008 3:48:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MrLee
“Doesn’t this violate Posse Comitatus?” It would but the Constitution has been dead for a while now. Just a discussion piece..... Sad.....

PC is not part of the Constitution, never has been. It was actually passed to keep local sheriffs or other local "LEO" from going down the Army Fort and deputizing a bunch of soldiers to keep the "darkies" in their place. PC has always had an "except as specifically authorized by Congress" exception. Apparently last year, they made some more exceptions.

76 posted on 09/28/2008 3:52:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: jude24
I swore to defend against **all** threats - not just foreign ones.

Threats to the Constitution, not necessary to law and order.

BTW, I took the same, or similar oath, several times, the version with something about "obeying orders" only once, the others had no such stipulation.

77 posted on 09/28/2008 3:59:24 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Oyarsa

My Dad was part of the 101st that sent to Little Rock in 1957 for school desegregation. So this is hardly the first time this has been done.


78 posted on 09/28/2008 4:03:31 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: El Gato

Didn’t know that. Thanks.


79 posted on 09/28/2008 4:11:53 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Oyarsa

Oyarsa, it may be that the troofer stole part of of AT story,because he carried it quite a bit further.

I think you’ll find the AT story might be puffed up a little-(They are a Gannet publication)-and they sometimes go down odd political roads.

I looked for the story I had seen a week or two ago, but couldn’t find it again.


80 posted on 09/28/2008 4:28:59 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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