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IRS Filed Tax Lien Against Obama's Mother in 1991
http://bocweb.dlnrbc.hawaii.gov/boc/search.php?offset=456&BusName=&LastName=dunham&FirstName=&SearchBy=GR&DateFrom=&DateTo=&DocType=A&SortBy=name&Nrec=12# ^ | 10/19/2008 | self / State of Hawaii

Posted on 10/19/2008 9:20:15 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE

So I was digging into Mr. Obama/Soetoro/Dunham's past looking for records of Birth, Marriage, Divorce, Name Change, etc on Official State of HI sites and, I found the following:

Document No: R1991155273

Recorded: 1991-11-12

Class: NL (Notice of Lien)

Grantor(s): DUNHAM STANLEY A

SUTORO STANLEY A D

Grantee(s): U S A IRS

TMK:

A little cryptic I know and it is just a document SUMMARY -- but is an official record of a tax lien filed by the IRS against Stanley A Dunham (aka/ Stanley A. D. Sutoro (sic/sp))-- this an offical record with the State of Hawaii's "Bureau of Conveyance" -- I ordered a hard-copy and it is suppose to arrive by US Mail within 14 Days... (I'll post an image as soon as it arrives assuming it contains more data as i am 99% sure it will)

In the meantime a few questions I hope freepers can help with:

1. Is this a "new" discovery? Has anyone else heard an "Obama's mother didn't pay her taxes story?" did Barry make any reference to this in either of his books?" etc?

2. This happened in late 1991 -- was Barry likely in a financial position to help his mom out?

3. Any other thoughts about where/how to follow-up for more details?

It would be helpful to know:

What exactly did the IRS accuse her of? What defense (if any) she offered? What was the final outcome/adjudication? Did the Government ever get paid?

Any thoughts you may have regarding how to pursue these questions would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; dunham; liens; obama; obamafamily; stanelyanndunham; taxes; taxevasion
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1 posted on 10/19/2008 9:20:16 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Leave the dead mother alone.


2 posted on 10/19/2008 9:21:39 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Maybe the IRS just wanted.... change.


3 posted on 10/19/2008 9:22:20 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: greatvikingone

There is no traction in talking about a dead mother.


4 posted on 10/19/2008 9:23:37 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

I think she had a lot of problems getting her cancer treatment paid for because it was a pre-existing condition.

Her lazy, good-for-nothing son did nothing to help her as she struggled with the insurance company while she lay dying in her bed.


5 posted on 10/19/2008 9:24:34 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Biden: “Obama’s mother unpatriotic!”


6 posted on 10/19/2008 9:25:58 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Unless this has a direct bearing on obama in some way, I cannot see how digging around in his dead mothers’s affairs would help Mccain.


7 posted on 10/19/2008 9:26:07 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: greatvikingone
Hard to see how SHE is harmed by the inquiry — as for her son? I can easily see how his election to president could be very harmful to quite a few people...

Given that Mr. Obama seems VERY interested in making OTHER people pay their “fair-share” — it would be ironic to say the least if his mother choose (illegally) not to pay her taxes — don't you agree?

Moreover, what did Mr. Obama know about this and when did he know it? If it was some innocent oversight on Mom's part — did he help straighten it out? Does Mr. Obama think it is “ok” not to pay your taxes? Hasn't he told us that his mother was the most important influence in his life? Therefore — don't her attitudes towards civic duties matter?

8 posted on 10/19/2008 9:29:44 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("The best is the enemy of the good." Voltaire)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

dba A.D. Sutoro????????


9 posted on 10/19/2008 9:29:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: teletech

Me either....but then, I still can’t figure out how a $1200 tax lien for Joe the plumber gets repeated by the MSM for days.


10 posted on 10/19/2008 9:30:42 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: TaxRelief
Thought you might enjoy this:

For Liberty's Sake

11 posted on 10/19/2008 9:31:37 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh Is "The Passion" of Conservatism And Pretty Good At That Radio Thingy)
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To: Dianna

>>>There is no traction in talking about a dead mother.<<<

True enough, at least speaking as someone with a sense of moral decency. However, if the woman in question was Republican or conservative, the media would be following this like she was a plumber from Ohio asking a question about redistributing wealth or an Alaskan high school junior who just got knocked up by her boyfriend.

Which is our problem, by the way. Two years ago, all I heard about in the media was Republican corruption personified in a Florida congressman who flirted with boys via e-mail. Now that Congressman’s Democrat replacement has been outed with two mistresses and taped telephone conversations with him threatening the woman... and the silence is awe-inspiring. For years I’ve heard about Republicans stealing elections. Now it’s happening in state after state with ACORN... and more silence.

Somewhere, someone has to confront the Democrats and the Left blow for blow. The Democrats and the left apparently don’t care about our moral stance and our sense of propriety. They want us squashed like the bugs they think we are. They want us exterminated. Someone out there needs to give life to that old expression from my childhood, “Never start a fight, but if you find yourself in one, make sure you finish it.”

Sorry for the rant, but I hate constantly getting sucker-punched by the left while I act nice.


12 posted on 10/19/2008 9:32:46 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: TaxRelief
His mother died in 1995 — this Tax Lien was filed in late-1991... it almost certainly pertains to matters in the mid-to-late 1980’s... WELL BEFORE AN HEALTH ISSUE AROSE... I am no fan of the IRS, but it generally takes them a long time to get to the “lien stage” and they generally (though by no means always) have good reason for going after a small-fry like Obama’s mom...
13 posted on 10/19/2008 9:34:45 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("The best is the enemy of the good." Voltaire)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

If she’s registered to vote I’d care. But this...


14 posted on 10/19/2008 9:35:30 PM PDT by Caper29
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

What’s new, is how she spelled her name ‘Sutoro”....what can we find on Barry Sutoro?


15 posted on 10/19/2008 9:35:45 PM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

Is the Obamalamadingdong’s actual mother still alive? I’m being serious here. If she still lives, shes the most under reported person in the history of man kind.


16 posted on 10/19/2008 9:36:49 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13

been dead since 1995 — the tax lien was in 1991


17 posted on 10/19/2008 9:38:05 PM PDT by NYC_BULLMOOSE ("The best is the enemy of the good." Voltaire)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Joe the Plumber has a tax debt owed, not a lien.

A lien is when a debt is levied against an asset . . such as physical property or when the wages are garnished. A lien is farther down the road toward non-payment and is more serious.


18 posted on 10/19/2008 9:38:13 PM PDT by BAW (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE

He wasn’t rich in 1991.


19 posted on 10/19/2008 9:40:54 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: NYC_BULLMOOSE; LucyT; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; Jeff Head; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Calpernia; ...

I'll tell you how this plays:

Obama won't reveal--and Harvard won't reveal--how he paid the $75,000 for Harvard.

We are discovering that it has to do with Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour advisor to Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

Not only is Obama attacking Sarah Palin's daughter and son, attacking Joe the Plumber, attacking McCain's wife--he throws around "brother's keeper" while not sending his brother a dollar a day--disrespects his grandmother for taking the bus to a job to pay for his fancy private school--and let his own mother get into tax arrears while he rode through the nation's premier university on other people's money.

Typical Obama.

20 posted on 10/19/2008 9:42:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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