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In the Face of Hatred (Facing Down the Gay Nazis on Prop. 8)
Meridian Magazine ^ | 11 November 2008 | Paul Bishop

Posted on 11/11/2008 1:55:37 PM PST by Vigilanteman

It has been an interesting week.

The Chinese homily, “May you live in interesting times,” has its roots in a curse, not a blessing.

As I said, it has been an interesting week.

The controversy in California regarding Proposition 8 (the proposed amendment to the California constitution defining marriage to be strictly between a man and a woman) built to a frenzy in the days leading up to Tuesday's election and then exploded into anger and violence in the aftermath of Prop 8's slim passage into law.

I am a Los Angeles Police Department detective supervisor running a sex crimes unit covering the western quarter of the city, which also includes the area where the Los Angeles temple is located. I have a fantastic crew of 20 detectives who are an amazing mixture of races and sexes. I have several detectives who are openly gay or lesbian. This orientation has nothing to do with their efficiency as investigators. I deeply respect and like these individuals. I enjoy working with them. My life is often in their hands when we serve high risk search or arrest warrants. I trust them implicitly.

Obviously, the types of crimes we investigate bring us into regular contact with victims who are of an alternative lifestyle orientation. It is incumbent upon us that our compassion for these victims be no less than for victims who are heterosexual.

Hard Choices

Working in such an environment, I found taking a position on Proposition 8 to be difficult. Even though I chose to follow the direction of our Church leaders in my voting decision, it was extremely hard for me to place myself on the line when it came to actively working to ensure the passage of Proposition 8.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 8; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; nazis; prop8; proposition; proposition8; waroncrime
This was sent to me by a boyhood friend of mine who still hasn't given up trying to convert me to the Mormon faith.

It is an excellent read on what happens when a handful of committed people face down fascism. It is a lesson we are all going to have to learn for the next four years if this naton and culture are to survive.

1 posted on 11/11/2008 1:55:38 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

ping for later read.


3 posted on 11/11/2008 1:58:02 PM PST by StatenIsland (The '08 Election: It's about the survival of our country, not making a point...)
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To: Vigilanteman

You know, I find it interesting that the author was so dismissive of someone’s racial background, and far more attentive to someone’s professed sexual orientation. But then, that’s the goal of the homosexual agenda - being treated always as being special, something different, while at the same time demanding that everyone bend their lifestyle and morals to appease their own.

As for the protests, and those who ‘control them’, bah. Had that been a protest about concealed carry, the protesters would have been shot for acting like that, and such a thing is a debate about an actual constitutionally protected right, vs some lifestyle choice. Equality is only for those who follow the liberal agenda, conservatives need not apply.


4 posted on 11/11/2008 2:01:41 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Facing Down the Gay Nazis on Prop. 8

Some of the real Hitler-Nazis were sick twisted perverts too.

5 posted on 11/11/2008 2:03:13 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Morgana

The word “intolerant” is a reflection of its user.

They claim others are intolerant while showing the rest of the world that they harbor no tolerance for any view but their own. AND they are getting uglier.

Now we are starting to see the hatred that marches in lockstep with homosexuality.


6 posted on 11/11/2008 2:05:22 PM PST by Loud Mime (CHANGE: Palin 2012)
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To: Vigilanteman

those who shout tolerance are the ones who are most intolerant

the homosexuals have proved that by this law.
However if you try to reason with them about their agenda and it is not a constitutional right to marry or nature did not intend for a man and man to have sex with each other then they just get louder and shout names at you.
They are very confused people, they think all those against them are religious and we are not, they go outside of Church’s but only white churches but do not have the guts to go outside a black church or a mosque.

The fact is these people do not understand how they are turning people away form them, they do not understand how people are now seeing them, not as a peaceful tolerant lot but more of a bully trying to force their view on to you


7 posted on 11/11/2008 2:06:37 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Some of the real Hitler-Nazis were sick twisted perverts too.”

What do you mean? We have real Hitler Nazies right now. I am embarrassed of this country.....now.


8 posted on 11/11/2008 2:08:57 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: Morgana

Enlightening article.

Evil is evil. Our culture allowed this conduct to grow up and flourish like weeds, and now the gay community senses its political power and is bent on tormenting the remaining good people who stand in its way.

What folly to think that people who practice a lifestyle that the LORD condemns as an abomination are otherwise basically good folks. We are witnessing the true face of godless tolerance.


10 posted on 11/11/2008 2:18:22 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: Vigilanteman
Even though I chose to follow the direction of our Church leaders in my voting decision, it was extremely hard for me to place myself on the line when it came to actively working to ensure the passage of Proposition 8.

Your comments about working with homosexuals are true. Forgetting about their lifestyles they do very well in the workplace. However, as aptly described in the movie "Silence of the Lambs" these people covet what they cannot have. Allowing them to mock marriage is wrong. Marriage can only take place between a man and a woman. Perhaps society has forgotten the purpose of marriage.

The voting would have been considerably more lopsided supporting the amendment if the proposition itself had been worded correctly, and if there was not a full court press with millions of dollars telling potential voters what is not true. We will be getting a lot more of that psycho-babble with the incoming administration I would expect.

12 posted on 11/11/2008 2:18:45 PM PST by olezip
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To: Morgana

You are right on. I accessed some sites linked with FR backing up what they were saying about this scourge. Truly Sodom and Gomorrah have NOTHING on us, disgusting. Instead of enforcing decency laws (which PDs go to all sorts of lengths to in dealing with prostitutes) they give ground and actually have set-asides fot that behavior whether in the form of a “parade” (gay “pride”) or “events”.

This is what happens when wrong doing (sin) is approved of, not only that but incouraged. It’s getting worse and militancy needs to be beat back, laws enforced no matter how painful or difficult.


13 posted on 11/11/2008 2:22:12 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Vigilanteman
not out of homophobic hatred, but out of a love of Christ and a belief in the sanctity of traditional marriage.

Well, I don't think I will ever join the Mormons. I am Catholic and suggest there isn't much in my rearing that supports those opposed to Proposition 8.

Further, I am Catholic and feel a bit of remorse that a majority of my persuasion likely opposed Proposition 8. Still, this is the first year in my life that Catholic bishops (and surely not ALL of them) took a stand regarding ANY PART of Catholic orthodoxy. Maybe someday they will all feel the need to proclaim the Good News. We will see.

I have noticed that most REAL HATE eminates from the left. I have also noticed that the left is the MOST comfortable destroying institutions that have furthered civilization, and that no one tells others HOW TO LIVE with greater zeal than a liberal.

I'm pretty low in profile. People who know me know where I stand. I'm not the least ashamed of most of what I have done in this vale of tears. I will continue to suggest that I support the conservative take on the issue of marriage. I can't escape the view that people from the other side really have only the agenda of destroying another institution that has served mankind well.

14 posted on 11/11/2008 2:27:25 PM PST by stevem
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“the pink swastika” says it all.

I think these anecdotes where the person references “orientation” rather than preferences or behavior is a fake.

Homosexuality is a behavior not a trait.


15 posted on 11/11/2008 2:30:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: olezip
We will be getting a lot more of that psycho-babble with the incoming administration I would expect.

You can bet on it. One thing the democrats know is that their prime group, black people, don't buy into the gay agenda. They WILL try to convert them onto it. The black radicals are another problem (ie, Farrakhan and the NOI). They will have be thrown under the bus and ground into dust for the New Order to proceed, but they also know they need to be careful. One thing they don't want is GLBT and other moonbats fighting NOI and ACORN in the street.

16 posted on 11/11/2008 2:30:43 PM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: lookout88; All

http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm

“The Pink Swastika” fourth edition online FREE


17 posted on 11/11/2008 2:39:56 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: olezip
Perhaps society has forgotten the purpose of marriage.

Bingo! I have to say that I have a great deal of animosity inside myself towards my generation (Baby Boomers). Our generation treated marriage shabbily, and rejected it. Our children see this, and believe that marriage is "no big deal"; and, that homosexuals wanting to be married is also "no big deal" and "fair". Whose fault is it? Has there ever been any other generation of people who have been so successful in turning a functioning culture upside down and replacing it with utter chaos?

18 posted on 11/11/2008 2:39:57 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: All

(By Michael Swift, “Gay Revolutionary.” Reprinted from The Congressional Record . First printed in Gay Community News, February 15-21, 1987).

We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools [Project 10], in your dormitories [forced homosexual roommates], in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups [Wandervoegel , Boy Scouts], in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses [“gays in the military”], in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons will become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

Women, you cry for your freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy [radical feminism, lesbian separatist movement]. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will embrace them when they weep. Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of men. Then go ahead and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too and only one man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand with depth and feeling the mind and body of another man.

All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked [anti-discrimination ordinances, minority status based on homosexuality]. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men [graphic “pro-gay” sex and AIDS education, mandatory “sensitivity training,”].

All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically and financially [the multi-faceted and powerful “gay rights” movement]. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy [suppression of internecine conflicts and other negative information about homosexuals by the homosexualist dominated media].

If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead puny bodies [“hate crimes,” speech codes, fines].

We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man [the play Bent and a multitude of others; the lesbian counterpart in the television show, Ellen]; we will make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens [Hollywood promotion of homosexual “love-making” and of the “gay rights” agenda in movies and television]. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your squares, your plazas [public funding of homosexual pornography by the National Endowment for the Arts, National Public Broadcasting Service]. The museums of the world will be filled only with the paintings of graceful, naked lads.

Our writers will make love between men fashionable and de rigeur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles [invention of “gay-speak” — “gay,” “homophobia,” “diversity,” “sexual orientation”]. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the devices of wit and ridicule which we are skilled in employing.

We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals [outing]. You will be shocked and frightened when you learn that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere [a commonly used bumper-sticker]; we have infiltrated your ranks [strategic “surprise” announcements by “conservative” homosexuals, e.g. Mel White, former ghostwriter for Christian leaders]. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you.

There will be no compromises. We are not middle class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less [Brand/Friedlander, Fuehrer principle]. Those who oppose us will be exiled [the “Fems”].

We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you [Rossbach and Roehm, Frederick the Great]. We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers [Plato’s Banquet ].

The family unit — spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence — will be abolished [homosexual “marriage” and adoption]. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated [Plato’s Republic]. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants [Sparta].

All churches who condemn us will be closed [attacks on the McIlhennys, St. Patrick’s Cathedral]. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and esthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated [Kummerlings]. Since we are alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination [Nietzsche, Hitler]. For us too much is not enough.

The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets [Adolf Brand, Stefan George, Plato’s “philosopher-kings”]. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society will be indulgence in the Greek passion [pederasty]. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence [SA leadership]. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men.

We shall rewrite history [Holocaust revisionism, extravagant claims that historical figures (like Lincoln) were homosexual], history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions. We shall portray the homosexuality of great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man [Hans Blueher].

We shall be victorious because we are filled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages [victim-plunder strategy]. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution [ACT-UP, Queer Nation, blood terrorism].

Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks.

(By Michael Swift, “Gay Revolutionary.” Reprinted from The Congressional Record . First printed in Gay Community News, February 15-21, 1987).


19 posted on 11/11/2008 2:48:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Vigilanteman

In just a week, California and America is being subjected to Hate Crimes brought about by criminal gay deviates!

We don’t march and threaten gays with axes, axe handles, ball bats and other weapons. As done by Hate Filled Gays in a church as shown in the picture linked below:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/SRi3fTH9Z6I/AAAAAAAAW4E/xDkqkkZ9-Vs/s400/bash+back.JPG

More hate crimes committed by hostile Gay deviates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiwc9ybBiAw&feature=related

Vandals Target Mormon Church In Orangevale:
http://cbs13.com/local/Vandals.Strike.Orangevale.2.859342.html

Nor do we threaten elderly gays and rip their rainbows away from them. However gays committed this hate crime against an elderly Christian woman as shown in the link below. There will be a short bumper ad before it starts:
http://gatorgop.blogspot.com/2008/11/crazy-lefties-attack-old-lady-at-no-on.html

We can boycott the corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.

There are many corporations funding the repeal of Prop 8.
This link takes us right to the corporate sponsor page to repel Prop 8:
http://laglc.convio.net/site/PageServer?pagename=SU_CORPORATIONS

Boycotts can work for our side too.


20 posted on 11/11/2008 4:16:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Do we trust 0W0N$PENDALOT, Pelo$i, Barnie, Dodd & Reid to leave our 401k's/IRA's alone?)
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