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The Soul of the GOP
The New York Post ^ | November 15, 2008 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 11/15/2008 12:15:19 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative

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To: St. Louis Conservative

The GOP isn’t going to win over many new voters right now, but with solutions in hand for the coming nightmare, we can win over a lot of voters, people who will know they’ve been suckered by the Obamarama circus. We won’t have to play like Democrats, but we better be smart enough to have real answers and some candidates who can communicate them. If the Republican Party wants to waste more time on the moderate, intellectual suicide train, pushing social conservatives off the track, we are screwed. This is the wrong time for that debate. The second Civil War has begun in earnest. Choose sides.


41 posted on 11/15/2008 3:10:34 PM PST by pallis
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I think the trick is to start running against the Democrats as “The Establishment”...this makes R’s more cool, more hip and it is TRUE. The Democrats ARE the establishment, in favor of big power, status quo things and NO NEW IDEAS. Good, new, creative ideas are needed to be contrasted with the (yawn) same old same old Democratic slogans and ideas. This would make them suddenly the party of the OLD, party of the past, party that doesn’t “get it” etc.


42 posted on 11/15/2008 3:40:11 PM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: itsahoot
"Well in the schools it is,..."

That's true. I can't help but wonder, though, as to what group and situational involvements supporting constituents are involved in. In other words, who feels that they benefit from schools being so centrally administered?


43 posted on 11/15/2008 4:26:15 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: familyop
who feels that they benefit from schools being so centrally administered?

I taught a few years in California, the homosexual agenda is very active. That said, most of the founders of Education felt that parents were too stupid to raise their children, Webster being one of the worst. Parents lost all control over their children, when school consolidation started, right after WW II, all under the guise of providing a better education.

Schools used to be in neighborhoods where students were known by all, now they are able to hide among as many as 5000 students.

Ronald Reagan ran with two major objective, at least they were the most touted; 55 mph speed limit,( Double Nickels was very unpopular) and abolish the Federal Department of Education. He accomplished one.

Excuse the rambling, I am tired.

44 posted on 11/15/2008 4:43:29 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: St. Louis Conservative; Impy; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza; Norman Bates; rabscuttle385
"Democrats look like the cast of "Rent,"

You mean they all have AIDS ?

45 posted on 11/15/2008 5:36:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: itsahoot

Your comments were well written, and I agree.


46 posted on 11/15/2008 6:35:29 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: trimom

If it is still like it was during my 23 years, the military is largely apolitical.


47 posted on 11/15/2008 6:40:42 PM PST by csmusaret (I'd rather have a sister in a whorehouse than have a brother in the US Congress.)
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To: itsahoot
Ronald Reagan ran with two major objective, at least they were the most touted; 55 mph speed limit,( Double Nickels was very unpopular) and abolish the Federal Department of Education. He accomplished one.

Well, I for one am glad he abolished the Department of Education 'cause he didn't do the other.

48 posted on 11/15/2008 6:58:14 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You mean they all have AIDS ?

No, they have ebola. /sarc

49 posted on 11/15/2008 8:30:34 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Ha!

They are AIDS.

50 posted on 11/16/2008 3:32:08 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: trimom
I have heard tell of a discussion among a small group of junior officers who wondered if you could be a conscientious objector and refuse to come home from a war zone.....and which oath was more binding: the one to preserve, protect and defend or to obey the Commander in Chief.

Since the Commander in Chief also takes an oath to defend the Constitution, any orders he gives that are contrary to the Constitution should be disobeyed - but good luck on that. Even after 24 years in, I don't foresee the military leadership having the balls to put the military at odds with the government even if it becomes their sworn duty.

51 posted on 11/22/2008 10:55:21 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Remember the Alan Alda character on NBC's blessedly defunct "West Wing"?

Who's who on what's what?

Right now, it looks like market enthusiasm may be more of a drag to the GOP than social conservatism.

I know that unions, advocacy groups, and government are responsible for a lot of our problems today, and I'm not in favor of bigger government or higher taxes.

But after seeing how badly the brokerage houses gambled and lost, it's going to be hard to muster the same enthusiasm for go-go growth talk that people had in the 80s and 90s.

52 posted on 11/22/2008 11:01:45 AM PST by x
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I had also fallen into the trap as many Republicans did in believing it is time to start pandering to the Latino population as the only hope in regaining a viable Republican party. But after some thought I have come to the conclusion that the best hope for the Republican Party is through the white male vote.

McCain only received 57 percent of the white male vote and white male voters comprise 36% of the electorate.

But the Republicans have not recently promoted one policy or initiative that would be appealing to a white male. Such as the elimination of affirmative action or elimination of equal opportunity laws that are discriminatory against white males.


53 posted on 11/22/2008 12:03:39 PM PST by Lui
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