Posted on 11/25/2008 7:44:26 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
Why do you expect conservative perfection? Why not just expect the relative maintenance of the conservative platform plus some action in that direction? Even Reagan was responsible for some major amnesty.
That's right, just throw me a few crumbs so I'll stay in the fold. That's the mindset that has got us in this mess.
Oh, and the Roberts thing on the SC? Wasn't there a dustup with another, shall we say, leftist, as the first nominee
Democrats jumping to the GOP is what got them in this mess in the first place. Lieberman is on the correct side of one issue. One. That’s it.
Why do you keep pimping these moderates and liberals? You middle-of-the-roaders could have your own website if any of you were passionate about anything other than compromise.
Actually, this is a little bit of leftist revisionist history trying to blame Lieberman for the 2000 loss, started by the nyt.
Lieberman was trying to shield the dems from Republican accusations that they were trying to throw out military absentee votes. He did not, in any way that I am aware of, attempt to change the dem strategy of fighting to have the absentee military votes discounted.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E6DA1F3BF933A15752C1A9669C8B63
According to Bill Sammon’s book “At Any Cost” his take was also that Lieberman wouldn’t go along with the Gore plan to spike the military ballots. You saw the clip yourself, didn’t you? He said what he said. I guess we could always be suspicious of him and never attribute good intentions to him, but I don’t see the purpose of that. Do you?
Joe Lieberman switching parties is about as likely as Moderates and Independents producing a win for John McCain in a national election cycle.
Hey....wait a minute....(chuckle)
The majority of military ballots were being contested because they didn't have postmarks which many never have. All he said was they should be looked at again, not that they should be counted.
Sammon’s take plays kind of like the HBO bit in that Lieberman was told the argument about how to ditch the ballots, but then he went on t.v. and didn’t support that position. I understand the argument that it was already too late to ditch the ballots, but even Sammon said that what Lieberman said on t.v. was used by the GOP to count the ballots.
I guess you have to ask yourself what the point of trashing Lieberman is. He is reviled by the left, as a search on You Tube will show you. If he did everything for his own sake, why did he support the war? That’s what lost him dem backing in his own primary. Even now, he went on Brokaw’s show and wouldn’t apologize for what he said in the campaign or for campaigning on behalf of McCain. He said he regretted some of what he said, but he wouldn’t apologize.
Source?
No doubt. I asked the extremists several times which Republican congressman they consider to be RINOs and which are “real conservatives”. They never gave me an answer.
On the contrary, if Joe had been McCain’s VP pick, the ticket would have won over many more moderates than Palin won over conservatives. Instead, moderates abandoned the GOP and enough of the right stayed home to cost us the election anyway.
Why do you ask me? It was Cinnamon Girl's contention. I was hoping she could provide the source.
Yes he did support the war, as did many of the dems. The others cut and wanted to run and Lieberman stayed the course, for what ever reason.
Now that the dems are in power and he has kissed and made up with reid he cannot be trusted. He voted with the dems 99% of the time and the war in Iraq is pretty much a non-issue coming up, unless the dems want to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I respect Joe for being a patriot, but that’s it. As far as I am concerned, he’s the only lib that rises to that level, and the rest of them could all drop dead for all I care.
Joe will remain a patriot, I think, but he will never give up his liberalness.
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda . . . You think. I think. Everybody thinks. If I have to “appeal” to Socialist Lites to “win”, they can just join the party they’re already in anyway - The Democrats, and let them eat cake. We have seen, for the most part, where eight years of “moderate RINOs” get us. - Conservatism is a principle, not a party.
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