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David, you, just like Michelle Malking, Medved and countless others NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTS before spouting off. Your argument is filled with errors. And using the "64 million voters" argument is utter bunk, unworthy of anyone who claims to be a conservative.
1 posted on 12/06/2008 9:43:50 PM PST by pissant
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yet another ill informed conservative with Obama-itis.


2 posted on 12/06/2008 9:45:01 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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There has been so much discussion about Natural Born Citizen and what the real definition is that perhaps it is something that does need to be clarified. I suppose there are arguments on both sides.
3 posted on 12/06/2008 9:46:08 PM PST by celtic gal
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Horowitz, the Radical Son guy? He's not on koolaid, too, is he?

So, appealing to the cooler-headed FReepers: look, is this a non-issue or not? Is it what Horowitz calls it, the conservative version of the unhinged "stolen-election" rant?

4 posted on 12/06/2008 9:46:17 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (making full use of an unfair advantage in the marketplace of ideas)
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I’m not hushing up about this, it is the best thing to happen in a long time he possibly can be unseated before he is inaugurated.


5 posted on 12/06/2008 9:46:37 PM PST by television is just wrong
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Horwitz could have just as easily penned this piece asking Bama why he won't produce his vaulted birth certificate. What are these people afraid of and why are they blaming conservatives for this drama?
8 posted on 12/06/2008 9:49:29 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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David and the rest are right. He has been elected. Even if you are right this is such a strange technicality that it means squat. He is elected and no one but no one can take it away from him now. Geez, his mom was a US citizen.


10 posted on 12/06/2008 9:50:08 PM PST by libbylu
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"We are five days from fundamentally transforming the United States of America." - Barack Obama 10/30

"I will change the world." - Barack Obama, 11/1

America is a constitutional republic, not a democracy of followers pliant in your hands;
we won't let you change that - but let us know how the world works out for you. - Investigating Obama, 12/6

David Horowitz was once ungrounded enough to be in the SDS. After that, he found his footing, but on exactly what ground?

11 posted on 12/06/2008 9:50:26 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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There are also a lot of dismissive punks here on FR as well.

Aside from the very REAL isues of Zero’s eligibility, at the very least, respect for the Constitution as the ultimate law of the land will receive a badly needed boost.


12 posted on 12/06/2008 9:50:49 PM PST by EyeGuy
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Whatever the Supreme Court decides, the American people deserve to have complete information. That they didn’t have it a year or more ago is the result of seditious behavior by both Obama and the MSM.


13 posted on 12/06/2008 9:51:42 PM PST by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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“(McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.) “

I thought it didn’t matter because McCain’s parents were both US citizens anyway?


14 posted on 12/06/2008 9:52:18 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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The Birth Certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil.

This former left-wing radical, if I recall, the son of left-wingers, thinks The Constitution of the United States of America is a set of "technicalities."

15 posted on 12/06/2008 9:53:55 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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Horowitz comparisons are laughable as the rest of the main stream media who have not looked at the facts.

Lets do a comparison:

Fact: Obama admitted that he was a British subject and a Kenyan citizen.

Fact: Obama has hired 3 law firms to fight the lawsuits trying see the truth written on his long form birth certificate.

"Democrats' Bush derangement syndrome"

The 911 Truthers who say 'Bush knew' premise.

supporting facts ??

None.

16 posted on 12/06/2008 9:54:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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Look, who among conservatives is going with this story?

Your answer should tell you how legit it may be.

Horowitz, Malkin, Limbaugh, Medved, Hannity, ad infinitum, aren’t touching it. If credentialed conservatives aren’t jumping on the bandwagon then there has...

...Gotta be a reason, folks.


20 posted on 12/06/2008 9:55:45 PM PST by norge
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Too many errors to count. We’re not doubting the moon landing here...we just need proof of qualifications, which can easily be provided.

Trust but verify.

David, if I hired an illegal alien, “I assumed he had a green card, but didn’t bother to make him show it to me” would not fly. As the employer, I am responsible for checking his status. Well, aren’t we all Obama’s employers? Don’t we have a responsibility to make sure he has met the qualifications.


24 posted on 12/06/2008 9:57:59 PM PST by lacrew (Yup, they're girded!)
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Horowitz is a liberal. He was milking the conservative movement by claiming to have been converted. At heart, he's in it for the money.

Listen, Horowitz... the drafters of the constitution envisioned a time when some smooth talking foreigner would bamboozle the dumb ass American retards into voting for someone who has foreign interests in mind. MILLIONS OF VOTES to elect a bad guy. Well, conversioner... it just happened a Kenyian Muslim with a secret background and a secret agenda and the good citizens of the United States just elected him because he's cute.

We need the protection of the constitution or we don;t have a constitution. So.... can we now buy slaves again? Can we stop paying taxes? Do the states no longer have the right to regulate the sale of liquor? Read the constitution before its gone.

Horowitz... STFU!

26 posted on 12/06/2008 9:59:55 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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Too many errors to count. We’re not doubting the moon landing here...we just need proof of qualifications, which can easily be provided.

Trust but verify.

David, if I hired an illegal alien, “I assumed he had a green card, but didn’t bother to make him show it to me” would not fly. As the employer, I am responsible for checking his status. Well, aren’t we all Obama’s employers? Don’t we have a responsibility to make sure he has met the qualifications.


27 posted on 12/06/2008 10:00:09 PM PST by lacrew (Yup, they're girded!)
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David, you, just like Michelle Malking, Medved and countless others NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTS before spouting off. Your argument is filled with errors. And using the "64 million voters" argument is utter bunk, unworthy of anyone who claims to be a conservative.

Kinda makes you wonder if they were conservatives in the first place or just in it for the money and the publicity.

29 posted on 12/06/2008 10:00:54 PM PST by America2012
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Horowitz’ argument will be valid if the SCOTUS rules that he is qualified with no further action. But after the B.S. of 2000, and the left’s (and the media’s) attempts to delegitimize the Bush Presidency, I say that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If


36 posted on 12/06/2008 10:03:45 PM PST by tom h
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What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on US soil?

I can't believe what I am reading. How can any American even type those words?

37 posted on 12/06/2008 10:05:41 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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Being nice and gentlemanly to liberals never gets anywhere. It emboldens them to be bigger jerks. Look at all the hostile and personal crap that Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and the others shoveled at Bush over 8 years. Have they given him any credit for being a decent guy about it? No. I say let ‘em have it, fast and hard, over Obama’s birth certificate or anything else.


38 posted on 12/06/2008 10:05:58 PM PST by tom h
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