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Mitchell and Holbrooke to be Named Envoys [middle east, back to the 90s]
Washington Post ^ | 1-19-09 | Glenn Kessler

Posted on 01/21/2009 4:19:56 PM PST by SJackson

Now that Hillary Clinton has been confirmed as Secretary of State, the Obama administration will announce Thursday two high-profile appointments -- former senate majority leader George Mitchell (D-Me.) as Middle East envoy and former U.N. ambassador Richard Holbrooke as envoy for Afghanistan, Pakistan "and related matters," sources close to the administration said.

Mitchell will be charged with rebuilding the Middle East peace process in the wake of the three weeks of violence between Israel and the Palestinian militant group Hamas. Holbrooke will take on the difficult job of soothing relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan, whose border is a haven for the Taliban and is believed to harbor Osama Bin Laden. Left unsaid is that Holbrooke's brief could extend to India, which has been a victim of Islamic terrorism from Pakistan but is suspicious of third-party intervention in the dispute with Pakistan over Kashmir.

Both men are highly regarded for their diplomatic skills but have vastly different styles. Mitchell, a former federal judge, calmly and patiently approaches difficult issues while the hard-charging Holbrooke is known as a demanding task-master.

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhoforeignpolicy; bhomiddleeast; bhostatedept; bo; democrat; democrats; holbrooke; kofiannan; marzook; marzouk; mitchell; musaabumarzook; musaabumarzouk; obama; obamanominees; obamastaffers; oil4food; oilforfood; unoil4food
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1 posted on 01/21/2009 4:19:58 PM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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Hope and Change=Back to the Clintons. Been there, done that.

2 posted on 01/21/2009 4:20:47 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson

“The only thing missing in the new Clinton Administration is...um... Bill Clinton”


3 posted on 01/21/2009 4:22:30 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel
“The only thing missing in the new Clinton Administration is...um... Bill Clinton”

Unofficial position, Foundation Funding.

4 posted on 01/21/2009 4:25:04 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson

I have great respect for Sen Mitchell. I have no doubt that he will do the best job he is allowed to do. I believe Sen. Mitchell to be 100% above corruption!


5 posted on 01/21/2009 4:33:08 PM PST by WellyP
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To: SJackson

Gosh, I can hardly keep up with all the change.


6 posted on 01/21/2009 4:39:31 PM PST by clintonh8r (Bill and Hillary Herpes....they never go away.)
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To: WellyP

I’m going to assume you forgot the sarcasm tag.....


7 posted on 01/21/2009 4:41:04 PM PST by clintonh8r (Bill and Hillary Herpes....they never go away.)
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To: WellyP
I have great respect for Sen Mitchell. I have no doubt that he will do the best job he is allowed to do. I believe Sen. Mitchell to be 100% above corruption!

I've no question of his honesty, though he carries "evenhandedness" to the point of not recognizing the difference between terrorist and victim.

Not to mention we've tried the Mitchell/Clinton approach, which accomplished about the same as the Bush/Powell/Rice approach.

Not change, just more of the same.

8 posted on 01/21/2009 4:44:31 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson

Envoys are just a way to funnel more of our money to the welfare-state Pali regions while the Arab countries stand by, watch approvingly and wonder just exactly how stupid we are.

We should not send anyone or any funds over to Gaza and the West Bank until the Palis fully accept Israel and its right to exist in that region. We have done this experiment time and time before and know exactly what the outcome will be: our money gets wasted on weapons, more people get killed and no positions are changed.


9 posted on 01/21/2009 4:45:25 PM PST by rod1
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To: rod1
We should not send anyone or any funds over to Gaza and the West Bank until the Palis fully accept Israel and its right to exist in that region. We have done this experiment time and time before and know exactly what the outcome will be: our money gets wasted on weapons, more people get killed and no positions are changed.

I agree completely, aid should be contingent on joining the civilized world. We shouldn't be supporting their hate media or arming their terrorists.

10 posted on 01/21/2009 4:47:30 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson

Holbrooke should be successful at one thing: Bore-assing Pakistan and Afghanistan to death.


11 posted on 01/21/2009 4:55:12 PM PST by pankot
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To: SJackson

Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dumber


12 posted on 01/21/2009 4:56:07 PM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: pankot; reg45

It would be hard to think of two more ineffective envoys.


13 posted on 01/21/2009 4:57:56 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson; backhoe; TaxRelief; Cindy
1999 to 2001 : (CLINTON ADMIN : HOLBROOKE IS UN ENVOY -- see KOFI ANNAN, IRAQ OIL FOR FOOD SCANDAL ) Richard Holbrooke... was U.N. envoy from 1999 to 2001 in the Democratic administration of ...President Bill Clinton. ------- "Bolton Faces Fight Over U.N. Envoy Post -Holbrooke," Reuters, Mon Mar 21, 2005

2004 late or early JANUARY 2005 : (NY : GAGGLE OF WINDBAGS CONVENE AT RICHARD HOLBROOKE'S REQUEST - PLAN TO SAVE KOFI ANNAN'S ARSE...--- See IRAQ OIL FOR FOOD SCANDAL, NORM COLEMAN OP ED, GEORGE SOROS, TED TURNER, JOHN KERRY, John Ruggie, Leslie Gelb, CFR, Tim Wirth, Kathy Bushkin, UN Foundation ) When the stink threatens to make even bureaucrats gag, somebody has to mop up some of the mess. When a gaggle of special pleaders met the other night in New York to talk about the puddle in the parlor at the United Nations, it wasn't clear whether they were interested in shaping up the U.N. or merely saving the job of Kofi Annan, the bureaucrats' favorite bureaucrat. .......What frightened the coterie to action then, and no doubt Mr. Annan yesterday, is the growing sentiment in Congress to do something about corruption at the U.N., or else. .......
There was considerable wetting of well-tailored pants at the U.N. last month with the publication of Mr. Coleman's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, in which he asked the pointed question obvious to everyone: "If this widespread corruption had occurred in any legitimate organization around the world, its CEO would have been ousted long ago. Why is the U.N. different?"
Why, indeed. Mr. Coleman, a moderate Republican in only his second year in the Senate, is not through yet. He is the chairman of the Senate's permanent investigating subcommittee and intends to hotly pursue the scam artists who stole much of the $60 billion — that's "billion" with a "b" — in oil profits meant for food and medicines to be waved through the U.N. sanctions. ...Mr. Annan reassured the U.N. Security Council that Mr. Volcker's conclusions "will be made available to the public in a form that will take into account the rights of staff members and, where necessary, respect any undertakings as to confidentiality that may have been granted by the inquiry."
    Translation to plainspeak: "The fix is in. If you don't like the stink, get a bigger clothespin." (Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...
--------- "Kofi gets a cuddle from his friends," Wesley Pruden, Washington Times, 1/04/05
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To: backhoe
We can clearly conclude, from this passage in the article, that Ted Turner for some reason thinks he controls the UN and hence the world. (Chuckle)
Richard Holbrooke, who was Bill Clinton's ambassador to the U.N., called the save-Kofi meeting to order in his Manhattan apartment in early December, and the New York Times yesterday identified some of the other participants as John Ruggie, a former assistant secretary-general for strategic planning at the U.N., parked now as a professor at Harvard; Leslie Gelb, a former president of the Council on Foreign Relations; Tim Wirth, the former senator from Colorado and president of the United Nations Foundation, the most visible result of Ted Turner's celebrated gift of $1 billion to the U.N.; and Kathy Bushkin, an operative in unsuccessful Democratic presidential campaigns and now the executive director of Ted Turner's foundation.
More to the point, which of Ted's rivals leaked the info about this "secret meeting" to the press?
8 posted on 01/08/2005 1:17:32 PM PST by TaxRelief | To 4

Pretty good return on the money depending how the cash was divied up- give the UN $1 billion and receive all the accolades as a philanthropist, while your buddies and special interests quietly make off with $60 billion.
14 posted on 01/21/2009 4:59:24 PM PST by piasa
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To: rod1

The starting point for Mitchell is for the Israelis and Palestinians to put their peace plan on the table starting with the recognition of each other.


15 posted on 01/21/2009 4:59:51 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: SJackson

Mitchell and Holbrooke, 0bozo’s gift to the enemy


16 posted on 01/21/2009 5:14:42 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: piasa
2004 : (MUNICH, GERMANY : RICHARD HOLBROOKE ATTENDS CONFERENCE ON SECURITY POLICY -- see NICHOLAS BURNS & IRAN, NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION ) A story circulating in Washington, perhaps apocryphal, has it that late one evening during last year's [2004's] annual Munich Conference on Security Policy, after the day's discussions were finished and a few drinks had been downed, Richard Holbrooke began a sentence by saying, "When John Kerry is president and I'm secretary of state and Nicholas Burns here is undersecretary of state for political affairs ..."
Mr. Kerry went on to lose the election…
Mr. Holbrooke had written a glowing report in the Washington Post predicting that Mr. Burns would be in the new State Department team, which he described as "among the very best professionals of the current generation." He said their foreign policy would be "more centrist, oriented toward problem-solving, essentially non-ideological, and focused on traditional diplomacy." Mr. Holbrooke got almost all the appointments he predicted (and praised) correct - including Assistant Secretary Daniel Fried, Assistant Secretary C. David Welch, and Assistant Secretary Christopher R. Hill.
Such effusive praise of the Bush administration's team for State from the man who would have most likely led the State Department in a Kerry administration (sorry, Senator Biden) tells a lot about the state of things in Foggy Bottom.
President Bush won the 2004 election, a contest fought largely on foreign policy issues. Mr. Bush presented the platform for continuing America's war on terror by tackling tyrannical regimes and democratizing the Middle East. Mr. Kerry ran on a platform of working "more with our European allies," which the American people knew meant ignoring the British, Italians, and others who joined the war in Iraq, and instead making nice with the French and Germans. But the staffing hasn't worked out the way the voters might have expected.
Instead, with a few exceptions, most notably John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations and Condoleezza Rice as secretary, we've gotten a State Department of Kerry-ites.
Mr. Burns, moreover, is unusually influential as the third-ranking officer in the department because Ms. Rice has been relentlessly globetrotting and her immediate deputy, Robert Zoellick, has been preoccupied with Sudan and China. Mr. Burn's exact role in policy is hidden by State Department secrecy, but it's visible in the Bush administration's letting the E.U.-3 (Britain, France, and Germany) take the lead in handling Iran's march toward the A-bomb.(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...
------ "John Kerry's State Department," NY Sun ^ | 11/21/05 1 posted on 11/21/2005 7:09:39 PM PST by dervish
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"He [Nicholas Burns] did a stint as spokesman for President Clinton's first-term secretary of state, Warren Christopher, where his service included criticizing Mayor Giuliani for kicking Yasser Arafat out of a concert at Lincoln Center, saying that Mr. Arafat deserved to be treated with "respect, dignity, and hospitality." 7 posted on 11/21/2005 7:35:57 PM PST by dervish | To 4
17 posted on 01/21/2009 5:21:34 PM PST by piasa
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To: ehoxha
Please note that Holbrooke is currently "working" for George Soros. Once Holbrooke left the Clinton White House, Soros gave him a cushy job as Chairman of one of Soros Private Equity Funds. Holbrooke should be making at least $5 - $10mm per year there.--------19 posted on 06/20/2004 3:37:06 AM PDT by ehoxha

18 posted on 01/21/2009 5:27:18 PM PST by piasa
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To: SoCalPol; Cindy; Travis McGee
Mitchell and Holbrooke, 0bozo’s gift to the enemy

Looks like it.

MARCH 2005 : (ALISTAIR CROOKE ORGANIZES ANOTHER SECRET MEETING WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, JAMAAT-AL-ISLAMY AND "SOME AMERICANS"---- SEE DPTY HAMAS LEADER MUSA ABU MARZOUK, FREDERIC HOF {see Armitage Associates & GEORGE MITCHELL 2001 COMISSION on the Palestinian intifada}, BOBBY MULLER {see VVAF [INDOCHINA PROJECT]}) the Sunday Times [http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1543330,00.html] reported that Mr Crooke had organised another secret meeting, this time between Hamas, Hezbollah, Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, Pakistan’s Jamiat-i-Islami and -- wait for it -- the Americans.
------------- "The crooked response to terror," April 19, 2005, http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/001143.html as retrieved on Jan 21, 2007 10:30:50 GMT.

Americans? Who would participate in this?

IN an underground car park in the centre of Beirut, a bald man emerged from his Mercedes, surrounded by a phalanx of armed bodyguards.
As deputy leader of Hamas, the Palestinian militant group, Musa Abu Marzouk is a potential target for assassination by Israel. Yet there to greet him last week was Alistair Crooke, a veteran of nearly 30 years with MI6 and until recently a European Union negotiator with the Palestinians.
As they made their way upstairs, they were joined by several Americans, some of them former members of the CIA and others with links to the US administration. They had gathered in the Lebanese capital for an initiative launched by Crooke: the first talks for more than 10 years between senior Americans and radical groups denounced as terrorists by Washington.
....Among the US delegates was Frederic Hof, staff director of a 2001 commission on the Palestinian intifada led by George Mitchell, a former senator. They also included Bobby Muller, a Vietnam veteran and joint winner of the 1997 Nobel peace prize for his campaign against landmines.
Israel was not slow to condemn the meeting, accusing the American delegates of “extreme naivety” in imagining that they could draw groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah on to a peaceful path. “It does no good to appease or negotiate with such terrorists,” a government spokesman said.
Crooke said the Americans were there to listen and not to give advice, and emphasised that they did not represent “anyone but themselves”. The results of the two-day meeting would be passed to the Bush administration, he said. ...
------------- "Ex-MI6 man starts US-Hamas talks," by Stephen Grey in Beirut, From The Sunday Times [UK] March 27, 2005 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article438334.ece
Hmm . Frederic Hof & Bobby Muller... who are they?

* Frederic Hof, a partner in Armitage Associates L.C., left government in 1993 as a member of the Senior Executive Service of the United States. ... www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/67line.html

and

* Bobby Muller is the President of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation. ... Raised in a New York City suburb, Bobby Muller's commission with the US ... www.theglobalist.com/DBWeb/AuthorBiography.aspx?AuthorId=426 - 61k -


19 posted on 01/21/2009 5:47:59 PM PST by piasa
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To: SJackson; ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; dennisw; juliej; OldFriend; nyyankeefan; LucyT; beaversmom; ...
Ping!!!

The WaPo will never tell you that Mitchell is of Arabic ancestry (Lebanese) on his mother's side and he was raised in an Arab-American environment in Maine by his mother and her relatives. (He got the family name Mitchell through a father of Irish ancestry who left the family when George Jr. was very young. Mitchell's Irish ancestry, though much played up by the Clintonistas when they sent him to Northern Ireland, had very little influence on his formative identity.)

Mitchell has also been affiliated with and spoken before Arab-interest groups in the US during the time he was in the Senate.

So he's hardly entering as a neutral in O's Israel-Arab "peace" process.

20 posted on 01/21/2009 5:52:37 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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