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Marc Faber: " U.S. will default on debt or enter hyperinflation "
youtube/Peter Schiff Videos ^ | February 06, 2009 | sickoflibs/CNBC

Posted on 02/15/2009 7:10:51 PM PST by sickoflibs

“In the US we have a new economic school called the Zimbabwe school. And it’s founded by one of the great leaders of this world, Robert Mugabe who managed to totally impoverish his own country and that is the monetary policy the US is pursuing. If something goes wrong, print, if it doesn’t get fixed print more, if things get even worse print even more.”

“Looking at government debt and debt in general the only way they will not default physically on the debt is to inflate…. I don’t see how the federal reserve will ever again increase interest rates to a level where they will be real, meaning you have real returns above the level of inflation and where short term rates are above GDP growth, So eventually we will get inflation.”

“I wrote two years ago a report called “Is America becoming a Banana Republic? ”There are features that characterize Banana Republics; being a totalitarian state, a strong intervention into the economy, and a polarization of wealth and we have all these trends appearing in the US. We are not yet there yet, it could be reversed, but I doubt it will be.”Entire Video at :2/5/09 Marc Faber: “ U.S. will default on debt or enter hyperinflation

More on the US's new economic school at : Inside a Failed State - Zimbabwe


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1 posted on 02/15/2009 7:10:51 PM PST by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

I am very afraid of a burst of hyperinflation. I see no alternative, while current policies persist.


2 posted on 02/15/2009 7:12:45 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: Harrius Magnus; mojitojoe; Pelham; mom2twinsn2; LongLiveTheRepublic; ConservativeOrBust; ...
The Peter Schiff/Redistribution Watch Ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)

Check out Zimbabwe in link above.

3 posted on 02/15/2009 7:13:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: sickoflibs

The problems with Peter Schiff are:

1. He doesn’t grasp that Money Supply = Cash + Credit, and
2. He can’t explain why Japan has seen no hyper-inflation during their 20 years from 1989 to 2009 of massive government borrowing/spending and 0% interest rates.

Which is to say: Schiff is clueless about the real world.


4 posted on 02/15/2009 7:14:50 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: BlackVeil
The government has obligated somewhere in the neighborhood of seven trillion dollars in monopoly money in the immediate future and inevitably more to come. There is no way to flood the money supply to this extreme and not have escalating inflation.
5 posted on 02/15/2009 7:15:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: sickoflibs
Marc Faber: " U.S. will default on debt or enter hyperinflation "

Any relation to Emil Faber of "Knowledge is Good" fame?

6 posted on 02/15/2009 7:17:16 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: sickoflibs
“In the US we have a new economic school called the Zimbabwe school. And it’s founded by one of the great leaders of this world, Robert Mugabe who managed to totally impoverish his own country and that is the monetary policy the US is pursuing.

The socialist are pursuing that policy along with the Cloward-Piven Strategy
7 posted on 02/15/2009 7:17:38 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: sickoflibs

Part of me thinks this is wrong, since every other industrial nation is experience a pinch. I just don’t know whom we’re going to borrow from in the near future. I mean China can only do so much, and do we want them to....?


8 posted on 02/15/2009 7:18:01 PM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: sickoflibs

BUMP!


9 posted on 02/15/2009 7:18:04 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: sickoflibs
Who do you think is financing this trillion dollars? It's China. Hildabeast is going over there this week to talk about global warming, Tibetian rights and so on. The Chinese will commit to financing part of this tragedy and then tell her to talk a walk regarding Tibet, pollution and global warming.

Hope she has to stomp her little hooves over it.

10 posted on 02/15/2009 7:19:15 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: sickoflibs

Dr. Doom is pessimistic? That’s a surprise.


11 posted on 02/15/2009 7:22:44 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Southack
He doesn’t grasp that Money Supply = Cash + Credit,

Of which the Fed has neither, not really anyway.

He can’t explain why Japan has seen no hyper-inflation during their 20 years from 1989 to 2009 of massive government borrowing/spending and 0% interest rates.

The Japanese Government could borrow money during the 80's and 90's. That's why.

L

12 posted on 02/15/2009 7:23:39 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Southack

The problems with Peter Schiff are:

1. He doesn’t grasp that Money Supply = Cash + Credit, and
2. He can’t explain why Japan has seen no hyper-inflation during their 20 years from 1989 to 2009 of massive government borrowing/spending and 0% interest rates.

Which is to say: Schiff is clueless about the real world.


#2....the Japanese economy has stunk for the past 20 yrs...there stock market has never went back to its highs of the late 80’s.


13 posted on 02/15/2009 7:23:56 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: Southack
The problem with including credit in the money supply is that it is leverage. A money multiplier that is not easily controlled. Once you cross a certain point (and nobody seems to know where this point is) then it spirals and the currency tends to collapse. Think Ecuador, Argentina and Russia of late. Schiff is not G-d but he's no fool either.
14 posted on 02/15/2009 7:24:57 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Man50D

RE “The socialist are pursuing that policy along with the Cloward-Piven Strategy”,

I read about it in David Horowitz’s book “Shadow Government.”


15 posted on 02/15/2009 7:25:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: Southack

who runs japans money? do they have their version of the privately owened federal reserve?


16 posted on 02/15/2009 7:26:20 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
"#2....the Japanese economy has stunk for the past 20 yrs...there stock market has never went back to its highs of the late 80’s."

Not the point. The point is that Japan has been where we are...and yet Japan hasn't seen hyper-inflation.

Schiff and Faber can't explain that . Neither can Celente. All of them stutter like a bad country singer when asked why Japan doesn't see the hyper-inflation that they keep predicting.

Don't be like them.

17 posted on 02/15/2009 7:27:05 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: BlackVeil

Srock up now, then, correct?


18 posted on 02/15/2009 7:27:16 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Rick_Michael

> Part of me thinks this is wrong, since every other industrial nation is experience a pinch.

You are correct, he is wrong.

> I just don’t know whom we’re going to borrow from in the near future. I mean China can only do so much, and do we want them to....?

Most of the government borrowing is coming from the private sector. All the money coming out of equities needs to go some where and it is going into government debt.

And this is a problem. As our government borrows more and more money from the private sector there is less money available for investments, and without private sector investment there is no growth. Welcome to Japan.


19 posted on 02/15/2009 7:27:49 PM PST by bluejay
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To: April Lexington
"The problem with including credit in the money supply is that it is leverage. A money multiplier that is not easily controlled. Once you cross a certain point (and nobody seems to know where this point is) then it spirals and the currency tends to collapse. Think Ecuador, Argentina and Russia of late. Schiff is not G-d but he's no fool either."

Schiff is an utter idiot, and the problem is with *not* including credit in the money supply.

When you exclude credit from the money supply, you start predicting INflation even when massive amounts of credit have been destroyed.

Anytime more credit is destroyed than there is new cash being printed, you get the opposite of inflation...you get DEflation.

Schiff doesn't know the above. Faber doesn't know the above. Celente doesn't know the above.

Celente in particular has cost his clients a fortune in bad Market calls.

They give idiots a bad name. They are dangerous to your financial health. Don't be like them.

20 posted on 02/15/2009 7:30:16 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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