Posted on 02/25/2009 12:47:20 AM PST by voletti
Technology. When the immigrant waves washed up on the shores in the 19th and early 20th century, they were pretty much stuck here with few ties to the “old country.” And their kids could only hear boring stories about the old country.
Today, it’s possible to maintain daily ties with the old country via the internet, telephone, cheap air fares, etc. etc.
So given this information it might be more important to target ethnicities in which education, personal improvement and close familial ties are valued.
Strong marriages make strong countries.
This, then, undermines the 12 year education requirement, no?
God’s way is the best way.
Technology? I understand what you wrote, but can you be more specific about the effects?
The Indian americans I know all want to be american. They maintain ties to their home country but they want to be americans. They love america. The biggest Cubs fan I know is from Mumbai originally.
Two major effects:
A)It’s possible to maintain close ties with “the old country” via technology. That means, updates on news, friends, and culture. If there’s a favorite soap opera you watched in Greece, you can move to Iowa and still watch it.
B)Many of the immigrants moving to the U.S. now are highly educated. If a better deal comes along in France or Spain, they’re gone. This is true for many native-born Americans with high-demand skill sets as well. A hundred years ago it was a big deal for someone to move away from the small town in which they were raised. Now nobody thinks twice about it. Same with countries. An increasing number of people readily change countries if a better deal comes along. I personally know several who split their time between Europe and the U.S., those who do so between London and NYC are called NYLONs
Nothing then can be done about it, short of eliminating international travel or restricting it to short tours, no?
Even then you'd still have teleconferencing. So we are in a time of major upheaval where certain, critical sectors of society - the most beneficial and important: intellectuals, entrepreneurs, marrieds (maybe kids force them to stay put?), all producers - become free agents with no real allegiance to any one country.
Could be a good thing as countries that emphasize freedom and low taxes garner better people. The opposite of NY Dems moving to Florida, no?
I thought Patels were of the merchant caste. Not brahmins, yes, but the next level down. Besides they are good businessmen, hence the number of Potels around :)
I live in the part of the country (Route One Corridor in Central New Jersey) with the highest concentration of Indians in the United States. Working in finance, I know work with more Indians than black and hispanics combined. Compared to most ethnic groups in this country (including European ethnics) Indian Americans are driven, enterpreneurial, law abiding, and (generally) intelligent. However, whether Sikh, Hindu, or Jain, most tend to be conservatives of the heart, but liberals of the brain.
It is a surname, like Jones here, and they come from some land ownership in India, so they are familiar with RE, rents, etc.
I don’t know the caste sytem that well. They are not untouchables, though.
They are not highly educated. My understanding is closely related familial villages pooled resources to send their enterprising young men to America. They fell into hotels/motels that were junk, brought family members over to run things/live in them. Saved and scrimped, bought the next hotel/motel and continued on.
iPod — funded and engineered by an American country, the case designed by a British firm, and manufactured in China.
It’s been called a Borderless World. I don’t know where it leads or the fate of national identity. I’ve been in hotel bars in NYC where people negotiate through three or four different languages to converse. You’ll have an Indian guy, Chinese guy and American standing at the bar speaking French — but that may have only been used because they were trying to pick up chicks.
The Far East Asians followed that typical immigrant pattern.
My Chinese buddies HATE that term. I had one of them tell me once that calling them a "model minority" and praising their politeness implies that they're weak and passive. They hate that. I told him I like polite people generally because Americans have become such a bunch of rude @$$holes generally. That calmed him down.
The real bad news about Indians, as I see it, is that most of the ones I talk to claim to be Democrats. That tells me they understand nothing about who the Democrats really are, and how much they threaten the wealth and success of Indians specifically and Americans in general.
You have to be crazy to leave your home, fly 24 hours to come to a country where you barely speak the language, risking everything you have, and then vote for someone who thinks that the reason you're well off is because you've hit life's lottery.
My Chinese buddies HATE that term. I had one of them tell me once that calling them a “model minority” and praising their politeness implies that they’re weak and passive.
Remind them of the Chinese gangs and their involvement in narcotics, human trafficking, extortion, gambling and loan sharking. That should cheer them up.
I see it too. Which is the “international” language? English?
It will be curious to see how nations react. As their best and brightest can close up shop and move elsewhere. What will it mean for property laws and laws in general if I just leave as has happened with debtholders in the US?
The asset is depreciated, my personal guarantee is worthless, no? I am gone.
Sometimes I think the international language is English, then I see something that makes me think twice. It may be random. And in the long run some new language evolve.
America still has the third largest population along with a very sophisticated infrastructure of roads, communications and rail lines. We also have a well-developed educational infrastructure...I don’t see us fading away.
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