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Indian Americans: The New Model Minority
Forbes ^ | 2/24/09 | Jason Richwine

Posted on 02/25/2009 12:47:20 AM PST by voletti

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To: Hardastarboard
You have to be crazy to leave your home, fly 24 hours to come to a country where you barely speak the language, risking everything you have, and then vote for someone who thinks that the reason you're well off is because you've hit life's lottery.

Some of my neighbors are Indian, and through them, many of my friends. Several times I have been tasked to bring them into the Republican Party. Generally all goes well until some Jesus Freak starts lecturing them on how they are all going to hell and it is his personal mission to save them.Their religion is important to them and they are not going to hang around somewhere it is ridiculed.

Now, I just tell the Party to leave them alone.

41 posted on 02/25/2009 4:26:37 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Yeah, we have all those unemployed American doctors just begging to take care of patients.


42 posted on 02/25/2009 4:27:25 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Just tell your Christian friends that your Indian friends have promised to come back as Christians in the next life. Problem solved!


43 posted on 02/25/2009 4:28:28 AM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

Our media influence must also be broadly felt. Are most Indian films done in English?


44 posted on 02/25/2009 4:29:29 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I think some of them are — I’m not a fan of Indian films. And I don’t see them getting traction with American audiences. Though isn’t the universal appeal of American films interesting?


45 posted on 02/25/2009 4:31:13 AM PST by durasell
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To: durasell

Or, I could point out to the Indians that the Christians have come back this time as a horse’s patoot.


46 posted on 02/25/2009 4:32:04 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Great point. Dems nail them down two ways. One - all inclusive everything goes. Two - they ask to put up a sign, just an innocent sign for our incumbent (fill in blank).

They understand that kind of petty intimidation and favors/debts system as well.


47 posted on 02/25/2009 4:35:25 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: voletti

Indians from India are intelligent, work hard, and are super achievers. They don’t commit much crime, they don’t chop their wives’ heads off, they don’t fly planes into buildings.
Therefore they will never be included among the victim groups.


48 posted on 02/25/2009 4:35:42 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is a progressive deterioration of the mind)
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To: 1010RD

>>Are most Indian films done in English?

Almost none are.

Hollywood has an audience amongst the urban middle class.

But Bollywood is mostly Hindi and then there are a dozen regional languages with their own littlewoods.


49 posted on 02/25/2009 4:36:09 AM PST by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: durasell
Yes. Someone has said that prurience is common and our movies appeal to the lowest common denominator with action and sex.

I don't know if our better movies are that popular, though? Since movie production is such a luxury, I wonder if we just have a situation like post WW2 in which there just is not enough competition?

50 posted on 02/25/2009 4:37:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: voletti

Thanks. Is English the language taught in schools?


51 posted on 02/25/2009 4:38:36 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: voletti; All
The author gives little thought to the cultural differences that Indian immigrants bring to this country and to make the statement that these people are a model of immigration policy is unbelievable naive.

When we think of immigrants overwhelming our health care systems, taking advantage of entitlement programs and not assimilating, all too often we think of people from south of our border or from the Middle East. We need to recognize that immigrants from India and China are also part of the problem.


52 posted on 02/25/2009 4:38:40 AM PST by dmartin (Not the 'Change' you were 'Hoping' for?)
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To: Clemenza

It’s quite simple really. These people were the socio-economic elite of a highly ossified society where they were at the top. Their natural affiliation would be conservatism. However, coming to America they no longer are, and have embraced the Democratic model of liberalism which is more tolerant towards migration particularly from people of color. Which is why they have no problem keeping the poor and downtrodden “back home” poor and downtrodden while demanding “equal rights” in the U.S.


53 posted on 02/25/2009 4:39:39 AM PST by cmdjing
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To: 1010RD

>>Is English the language taught in schools?

English is the de facto language of business, of government and of all higher education. A legacy the Brits left behind, inadvertantly perhaps.

There’re almost 150-200 million English speakers in India (*All* of them multilingual). English is now just another Indian language, their prime minister once joked. But it is not, really. It is the passport to a better life.

You can see English coaching and teaching centers, English medium schools etc bloom everywhere these days - even in small towns and large villages.


54 posted on 02/25/2009 4:42:07 AM PST by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: Cronos; 1010RD; SolidWood; MyTwoCopperCoins

I believe that there are four main castes, the Priests, the Warriors, the merchants, and the farmers, followed by the untouchables. The priests and the warriors (political leaders) have a smaller tendency to migrate, IMHO, so the merchants are the highest castes to move here.


55 posted on 02/25/2009 4:44:49 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: durasell

The thing is that it’s now quite feasible to up and move half-way around the world. The world IS shrinking


56 posted on 02/25/2009 4:46:01 AM PST by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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To: 1010RD

If you take out the action/sex, then you’re still left with movies that portray a hero, a core optimism, the underdog winning, and a general worldview that says “life is fair.”

Of course, there are exceptions, but look at the biggest grossing movies, like Die Hard, Men in Black, etc.


57 posted on 02/25/2009 4:46:27 AM PST by durasell
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Makes sense given honor/power issues. The Patels are farming caste though, no? Or are they also a merchant caste in India?

I had thought the story was that villages pooled their funds and sent their best here to make it. Is that a myth?


58 posted on 02/25/2009 4:48:15 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: cmdjing

>>However, coming to America they no longer are, and have embraced the Democratic model of liberalism which is more tolerant towards migration particularly from people of color.

Certainly, the impression from the outside is that the Republicans are a WASP party whereas the Dems never fail to put up colorful faces in key, often decorative roles.

>>Which is why they have no problem keeping the poor and downtrodden “back home” poor and downtrodden while demanding “equal rights” in the U.S.

Sounds a tad condescending.

The vast majority of the yindu Indians who land here support the nationalist BJP party back home - which is conservative to the core (in a good way) - open markets, property rights, individual liberties, strong military, promotion of culture and traditions, and (surprise surprise) *against caste discrimination* of both the negative-social and affirmative-govt model.

Besides, their economic reforms started 1991 after languishing in socialism for 40 yrs prior to that. They’re growing now and gradually tackling poverty now. I would wish them well and not grudge them their few successes.


59 posted on 02/25/2009 4:48:22 AM PST by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: Cronos

It’s been shrinking since the telegraph, but nobody seemed to notice.


60 posted on 02/25/2009 4:48:40 AM PST by durasell
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