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This contains some information that even I hadn't heard before. Specifically, EVEN THE STATE OF HAWAII REQUIRES AN ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE BIRTH IN HAWAII! And, there is NO RECORD of a US Passport having been issued to 0bama prior to his being elected senator! (Hmm, I wonder which country's passport he used to travel during the 80s?)

If you, like my sister-in-law, believe this is a non-issue and only political muckraking, you've either drunk a toxic dose of the Leftist Kool-Aid, or are an imbecile!

1 posted on 03/26/2009 7:10:06 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Can he be impeached over ineligibility ? That may be the last recourse to save this country.


2 posted on 03/26/2009 7:12:10 AM PDT by libh8er
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Regime Change NOW.


3 posted on 03/26/2009 7:13:21 AM PDT by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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But it IS a non-issue. In the same sense that a Russian could be a non-person in the Soviet Union.
The issue has still not arrived, gone mainstream, reached respectability or credibility or a day in the fresh air and sun.
It remains echo chamber echo.
The courts are not going to help it. If they were, they’d have done so already. If some ass#0 clerk at the SC can squelch it, the courts are hopelessly compromised.
What that leaves us, I hesitate to say but it’s really obvious, isn’t it?


6 posted on 03/26/2009 7:17:18 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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also check out his SSN

when and where issued


7 posted on 03/26/2009 7:17:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: LucyT; Calpernia; STARWISE; BP2; FreeManN

FYI


8 posted on 03/26/2009 7:18:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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I’m becoming more interested in Orly Taitz’s revelation that she is in possession of multiple SSNs registered to one Barack Hussein Obama at over 100 differing addresses across the US.


9 posted on 03/26/2009 7:21:48 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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Oh...and Fact #2 and Fact #3 are not “facts”.

Real “facts” don’t need to use the word “if” at any time.


11 posted on 03/26/2009 7:24:07 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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You know what is really puzzling for me is Obama and his attorneys can actually release the actual birth certificate to the court marked “for attorney’s eyes only” and only the attorney’s, judge, and Obama would be allowed to see the document and it could be kept confidential.

So I really don’t know what the big deal is. We need to demand he release it to the courts and if there is nothing there then the attorney’s can agree on a statement the clears Obama otherwise let the chips fall where they may.

If Obama is indeed ineligible then ALL that worked to put him in power need to be held accountable which includes the entire DNC.


17 posted on 03/26/2009 7:41:06 AM PDT by surfer
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He traveled on an Indonesian passport. Soetoro legally adopted him (hence 0bama’s name is legally Soetoro) and moved to Indinesia. 0bama atended a grade school for Indonesian citizens only. He visited Pakistan for a summer during college and had to have used an Indonesian passport. He enrolled at Occidental College under the foreign student scholarship program (why do you think he won’t release his transcripts).


26 posted on 03/26/2009 7:49:48 AM PDT by Raster Man
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Just accept that the first “solar” powered aircraft carrier built will be named after the messiah and get over it. /s


60 posted on 03/26/2009 10:33:27 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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They are confused in their own email:

"A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) - on the other hand contains more information. It gives the specific location of your birth, the hospital, the time of birth, the attending physician etc."

Only an actual birth certificate has the additional information. Why did they say a COLB does, too?

62 posted on 03/26/2009 10:36:59 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Cancel liberal newspaper, magazine & cable TV subscriptions (Free TV-dtv.gov). Stop funding the MSM.)
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I would be interested if any of the answers filed in these cases by Obama’s attorneys ever once stated either that (i) the birth certificate had been released or (ii) that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

No, it would not be absolutely necessary to state either fact, if the defense is lack of standing.

But attorneys are very careful not to make false statements in pleadings, and their clients should be as well. There’s a big difference between, say, posting on a web site that the document has already been released and submitting it as fact to the court.

And of course it begs the question of why tens of thousands of dollars - probably much more - are being spent to prevent release of the document (if it exists), rather then just releasing it and immediately rendering every case moot.

And mootness would be a slam-dunk compared to challenges based on standing.


67 posted on 03/26/2009 10:45:53 AM PDT by cvq3842
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We have criminals in Congress, Criminal in the White House, and a Supreme Court that REFUSES to look into the matter.

What does all this add up to? AN ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT.

What does THAT mean? Means we have to get them OUT of there, but they have been there long enough to rig the system. No wonder they keep trying to get our guns!

Do we have to storm Washington and literally take over the capital? The White House? Is that what it’s going to take?

Good LORD!


79 posted on 03/26/2009 11:46:04 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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When someone hides something, they have something to hide. I see Obama being removed from the Presidency before Christmas.


99 posted on 03/26/2009 5:35:29 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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FACT #3: If Barack Hussein Obama WAS NOT born in the United States, he IS NOT a "natural born citizen" and if that is the case, Obama is guilty of perpetuating the most massive fraud in the history of the United States!

While this is true, birth in the US *may* not be sufficient in an of itself to qualify one as a "natural born citizen". Just having a foreign national father, not even a legal immigrant, but just a visitor on a student visa, may be a disqualification. It would not be disqualification for being a citizen, per the 14th amendment if nothing else, but "natural born" is something else again.

I say *may* not, because the matter has never really been adjudicated. The only time it matters is if one wishes to be eligible to the office of President. Governors need not be "natural born", nor Senators, nor Representative, we have examples of each who are not, but Presidents, they must be natural born.

101 posted on 03/26/2009 6:04:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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If the State of Hawaii DOES NOT accept its own CERTIFICATION of Live Birth as proof that an individual was actually born in Hawaii, why should we?

It's not being merely born in Hawaii that they are not accepting proof of. It's being born of parents with sufficient native Hawaiian ancestory.

But the point that the Certificate is "is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth" which is "a computer-generated printout", is still important. The Certificate shows place of bith for the parents, and residence address of the parents at the time of birth. The Certificate only shows their race.

Because it is a computer generated printout, it's much easier to modify or forge completely than the certification, which, at the time Obama was born, was usually a form filled in by typewritten enteries, and then signed by the parent, the doctor or other attendent, and the hospital registrar, (for hospital births).

Even the State Department won't issue a passport on the basis of a Certification from some states, because it does even show place of birth, but rather place of registration. They also won't accept one from any state if the date of birth and date of registration are more than a year apart. Now that is not the case with the Certification (alleged) posted as Obama's. However it illustrates why the Certification is not acceptable in all circumstances or for all purposes. The reason they won't accept a "delayed" registration, is that those are more likely have been "pencil whipped", with the information for the Certificate provided by the parent, or grandparent, with no doctor's signature, and so forth, and the State Department wants to know if that is the case on a "delayed registration", so as to be able to do further checking.

I wonder what The Messiah's Certificate would show on the "Attendent/witness" and "local registrar" lines?

102 posted on 03/26/2009 6:15:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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I received this in an email from the folks at World Net Daily.

That's your problem, right there. You see, the appropriate response when getting an email from WorldNutDaily is to delete it. Reading anything put out by those clowns is generally a waste of time. Shrug.

119 posted on 03/26/2009 8:42:39 PM PDT by curiosity
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ok, question... if you don’t mind.

I am a bit confused on the ‘natural born’ requirements.

I read in some places that BOTH parents had to be citizens and in others I read differently.

What is correct, please?


124 posted on 03/26/2009 9:54:16 PM PDT by KarenMarie
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bookmark.


125 posted on 03/26/2009 10:17:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gama Tamasi Ma Jyotir Gama)
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Obama's Certification of Live Birth does not exist and never has.

What he posted on the Internet is a totally fabricated image made from someone else's COLBs.

130 posted on 03/27/2009 5:42:10 AM PDT by Polarik (("Forgeries don't validate claims -- they repudiate them"))
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