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To: SkyPilot
Max Cleland is not, not, not a "war hero."

If we use the term war hero too loosely it starts to lose it's special meaning. However, if Cleland took enemy fire for this country, I have no problem if one of the terms used to describe him is war hero. Since John Kerry unquestionably took enemy fire on behalf the USA, I consider him a war hero, regardless of whatever else he is.

13 posted on 05/04/2009 6:08:40 PM PDT by Birch T. Barlow (Go Mariners! Certain 2009 AL West champions!)
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To: Birch T. Barlow
If we use the term war hero too loosely it starts to lose it's special meaning. However, if Cleland took enemy fire for this country, I have no problem if one of the terms used to describe him is war hero. Since John Kerry unquestionably took enemy fire on behalf the USA, I consider him a war hero, regardless of whatever else he is.

You stopped making sense after your first sentence.

Cleland was injured during an accident. Hero is not the word.

I served in the military and "took fire" but there is absolutely no way in hell I would ever, ever, ever apply the word heroic to me.

Kerry is a fraud and liar. Read the book "Unfit for Command" and details and testimonies of his contemporaries. These facts are indisputable.

15 posted on 05/04/2009 6:22:10 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Birch T. Barlow
If we use the term war hero too loosely it starts to lose it's special meaning... Since John Kerry unquestionably took enemy fire on behalf the USA, I consider him a war hero...

You've contradicted yourself. A lot of people have taken enemy fire, and while that is an unquestionably brave thing to do, attributing that alone to being a hero makes the word hero exactly what you described - "it starts to lose it's special meaning."

On the other hand, a small few have done extraordinarily valorous things while they are bravely withstanding enemy fire. Those are the people we call heroes, and to whom we award heroic medals.

21 posted on 05/04/2009 10:59:13 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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