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Posted on 05/08/2009 9:12:19 PM PDT by lonestar67

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To: lonestar67
The 2003 tax cuts were good, but they were the ones for which W had the least input (the dividend tax cut). He was adamantly opposed to the capital gains tax cut, which got in.

All his other tax cuts (mostly the rebates) were utter failures, and gave tax cuts a bad reputation. He left the GOP and the country in a shambles that led to the most liberal senator being elected president.

21 posted on 05/08/2009 9:45:07 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: lonestar67
Yeah, Bush gets blamed for everything that happened in his 8 years as president. That's the way it works.

There is a difference though if you are a Bill Clinton and leave our country wide open for a terrorist attack that leaves at least 3000 dead Americans, a recession, a downsized military and a Intellegence Service demoralized and budget cut. That's just a small list of Clinton failures, but no one hated him or placed blame on Clinton, a democrat.

Don't worry about it, history on Bush is yet to be written.

President Bush is a good man and loves this country. I think now we have in power what we as a nation deserve.

22 posted on 05/08/2009 9:46:18 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Impy

#18


23 posted on 05/08/2009 9:46:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: org.whodat

Carter
Clinton
Bush Senior
Obama

W is less conservative than those three?

If you cannot understand how W is definitely more conservative than those four then you do suffer from BDS.

I don’t disagree with Reagan being top 5. But at that point in time conservatives were willing to pick Reagan out of the intellectual trash heap and defend him.

President Bush defended this nation like few Presidents ever have, we ought to defend him against the unpatriotic lot that smeared him. It is completely fine to disagree on various points but the 100% flushing of his Presidency by “conservatives” does not sit well with me.

When Reagan died, I knew people who opened champagne to celebrate. The man was hated by many people— especially where I was in academia.

I have no doubt W has gotten a raw deal from the same crowd but I sense some spinelessness in the right of 2009 when it comes to W.

Let’s pretend that W = O and then argue we want a perfect Conservative.

Pretending that Reagan did not do amnesty and did not appoint Sandra Day O Connor among his chief blunders is fine because we accentuate those parts of conservative thinking and speech that we want today. W deserves to have the conservative components of his legacy defended.


24 posted on 05/08/2009 9:48:59 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: what's up
I believe that a lot of the damage happened AFTER the Dems took Congress in '06 is no coincidence. They WANTED to smash the economy and blame Bush for a reason. To get what they have today. The WH and Congress.

Exactly!

25 posted on 05/08/2009 9:50:18 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: rabscuttle385; lonestar67; sickoflibs; calcowgirl; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; dools007; ...
RE “The President's Tax Relief Has Spurred Robust Economic Growth, Millions Of Jobs, And Rising Wages. A Strong U.S. Economy Is Fueling Higher Tax Revenues. The Deficit Has Been Cut In Half Three Years Ahead Of The President's 2009 Goal

You got to really wonder if Lone-bush-bot is completely imbalanced to post this nonsense. Growth, rising wages, economic growth, tax receipts ?? You really would have to be delusional to think that is what GWB left us with. No one here but Lone-bush-bot posts crazy stuff like this now.

26 posted on 05/08/2009 9:54:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama /Pelosi/Bush Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: sickoflibs; lonestar67; calcowgirl
You got to really wonder if Lone-bush-bot is completely imbalanced to post this nonsense. Growth, rising wages, economic growth, tax receipts ?? You really would have to be delusional to think that is what GWB left us with. No one here but Lone-bush-bot posts crazy stuff like this now.

The Bushbots are delusional. But hey, could you expect anything less from brainwashed zealots? To them, Republicans get the credit for everything good, while the Democrats are always to blame.

I see things differently: both RINOs and Democrats are to blame for the economic crash. Throw them out in 2010!

27 posted on 05/08/2009 9:58:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t think facts matter to you. I think attitude does. If facts intersest you:

... improvements from the vetoed bill. Thus, the President’s senior advisors would recommend that he veto this revised bill if it were presented to him in its current form. We ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/106-1/ HR3064-h.html- 7.5KB - Bush Whitehouse
S 1692 — 10/20/99
... 10, 1997, respectively. The President will veto S. 1692 for the reasons he expressed in ... for the reasons he expressed in his veto message of April 10, 1996, which is ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/106-1/ S1692-s.html- 7.0KB - Bush Whitehouse
HR 1122 — 05/14/97
... April 10, 1996. The President will veto H.R. 1122 for the reasons he expressed ... for the reasons he expressed in his veto message of April 10, 1996, which is ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/105-1/ HR1122-s.html- 6.9KB - Bush Whitehouse
S 625 — 11/08/99
... enforce pension law, he will veto it. ... the President indicated that he would veto it. The Administration’s position on ... to S. 625, the President will veto the bill. The ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/106-1/ S625-s.html- 11.0KB - Bush Whitehouse
HR 3660 — 04/03/2000
... 10, 1997, respectively. The President will veto H.R. 3660 for the reasons he expressed ... for the reasons he expressed in his veto messages of April 10, 1996, and October ...

http://search.archives.gov/query-bush.html?qc=bush2&col=bush2&qp=url%3A*%2Fomb%2F&qt=veto&submit.x=0&submit.y=0

Bush did not make a deal with globalist bankers. In fact, the globalist bankers were in on tanking the US economy for the election. Soros, Buffet, the Dems were all in this group and Bush saved us all from a much worse annihilation of the financial sector.

You are absolutely making stuff up on murders by illegal immigrants. I will leave that one there for now.

The world you fear will come to you now mutliplied. Obama and the Democrats will watch you very closely.

Poliitics is not philosophy. You would do well to see the difference.


28 posted on 05/08/2009 9:59:50 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: rabscuttle385

Nice try rabscuttle.

Dems RINOS do deserve blame.

Do my posts say support Republicans. They don’t do they.

You are now evading the point. Are we going to defend the conservative aspects of Bush’s legacy?

The Republicans in Congress did do a poor job. In particular, Senate Republicans were horrible. That’s why I lead with point 1. Constitution says Congress does the budget.

Bush’s efforts on budget transparency were important to make this accountability possilble.

His executive instruction to not enforce spending earmarks not voted on by Congress reduced spending in a significant way even though the budget never showed that. That move was among the many shamed executive signing agreements that Bush did to help us Conservatives.

That action allowed agencies not to fund makrs earmarks.


29 posted on 05/08/2009 10:05:04 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: BARLF

well said.


30 posted on 05/08/2009 10:11:01 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: lonestar67

Ah, your post says it all. An acedemic. If I don’t agree with all your erronious points, I am BDS. Namecalling in the true leftist acedemic vein. You say you respect Reagan, and in the next sentence, trash him. You should be teaching at Berkley, pal. You’ve got their methodoligy down pat. Fortunately, I live in the real world, and by noon, chew guys like you up and spit them out. Learned this skill in college listening to my “betters” tell me how to think. Not buying. Picked up lots of wisdom here on this site, but your post is manipulative claptrap.


31 posted on 05/08/2009 10:11:36 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: lonestar67; sickoflibs; calcowgirl; Liz; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; HiJinx; gubamyster; bamahead; ...
I don’t think facts matter to you.

Links to bills from 1999 and earlier, from the times before Bush was first elected in 2000? Sorry, no sale.

Bush did not make a deal with globalist bankers...and Bush saved us all from a much worse annihilation of the financial sector.

Ah yes, Bush is your savior.

He took money from America's youngest citizens to feed to the globalist bankers at Citi, BofA, Goldman, and other financial institutions.

Either a deal was made, or Bush was just plain stupid and incompetent in handing over money voluntarily.

You are absolutely making stuff up on murders by illegal immigrants.

Bullsh*t.

Example #1:

2006: One week after he slammed his Nissan Sentra into a car waiting at a stoplight, killing a U.S. Marine and his female passenger, Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano, whose blood alcohol level was measured at .32 – four times the legal level in Maryland for intoxication – has been identified as an illegal immigrant by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office in Baltimore.
Marine Cpl. Brian Mathews, 21, of Columbia and his date, Jennifer Bower, 24, of Montgomery Village were killed Thanksgiving night, shortly after 10:00 p.m. when Bower's Toyota Corolla was hit from behind by Morales-Soriano, 25, of Mexico. Mathews and Bower were on their second date and were planning to take part in the June wedding of friends who had introduced them to each other.> (source)

Example #2:

2005: On October 4, 2005 WKMG television in Florida reported on their website that fourteen "field laborers broke into an 18-year-old woman's home, dragged her across the street and then took turns raping her."
This rampaging gang of "field laborers" consisted of men ranging in age from 18 to 56. The victim reported they choked her until she passed out. When she awoke, they were pouring alcohol in her mouth. She was then raped by each and every one of them.
When these animals finished they pushed her out the front door like a piece of used meat. Somehow this girl managed to get to a phone where she called the police. Deputies arrested the 14 men who were still at the house where the rape occurred. They will be charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, and sexual battery by multiple perpetrators. They face life in prison if convicted.
Not until we get to the end of the WKMG website story is the fact that the rapists aren't just "farm laborers." Indeed, they are all illegal aliens. Only at the end of their story do we learn: "Twelve of the men are from Guatemala, one from Puerto Rico and the other from Mexico." (source)

Why don't you do conservatives a favor and stop defending treasonous RINOs and their pet illegal alien invaders, Bushbot.

Poliitics is not philosophy. You would do well to see the difference.

Bushbots: "OMG only Republicans can save you! Bush is our savior! Without him, you are nothing! OMG I love him so much. I worship him as the best president ever!!!11" /sarc

You're right. Politics is not philosophy. Politics is the exercise of power, while philosophy gives a rationale for that exercise of power. Without philosophy, without a genuinely Constitutional and conservatarian ideology, politics is soulless, relativistic, and tyrannical.

32 posted on 05/08/2009 10:12:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: lonestar67
Are we going to defend the conservative aspects of Bush’s legacy?

Since when is Big Government more "conservative"?

33 posted on 05/08/2009 10:13:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: lonestar67; sickoflibs; AuntB; calcowgirl; Liz; HiJinx; gubamyster; Tennessee Nana
You are absolutely making stuff up on murders by illegal immigrants. I will leave that one there for now.

Take this, stuff it in your proverbial pipe, and inhale deeply.

Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001...While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001. (source)

And those statistics are current as of November 2006! That's almost *three* years ago.

But hey, according to RINOs like you, your savior Bush, and the pathetic McCain, illegals are just "God's children," ordinary United States citizens are just collateral damage in the globalist quest, and anyone who dares to dissent has a "mental condition."

34 posted on 05/08/2009 10:21:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: lonestar67
None of the bushes are conservative, never were never will be.

The rest of your post is senseless wondering.

35 posted on 05/08/2009 10:21:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: rabscuttle385
But hey, according to RINOs like you, your savior Bush, and the pathetic McCain, illegals are just "God's children," ordinary United States citizens are just collateral damage in the globalist quest, and anyone who dares to dissent has a "mental condition."

One thousand percent correct!!!

36 posted on 05/08/2009 10:23:24 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: sickoflibs
RE “The President's Tax Relief Has Spurred Robust Economic Growth, Millions Of Jobs, And Rising Wages. A Strong U.S. Economy Is Fueling Higher Tax Revenues. The Deficit Has Been Cut In Half Three Years Ahead Of The President's 2009 Goal”

All of which was fake, he gave the US 4.50 a gallon gas and 14+++ million un-sold homes and millions more to be foreclosed on. And a never ending bailout. What damn robust economic growth, it was all fake!!!! I was in Georgia today, and drove by a home that had all it's contents scattered about the yard. That is where the deputies left it, picked over by buzzards like a dead animal.

37 posted on 05/08/2009 10:32:11 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: lonestar67

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38 posted on 05/08/2009 10:35:22 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: org.whodat
and drove by a home that had all it's contents scattered about the yard.

I understand the frustration sometimes but what info do you have behind this statement?

39 posted on 05/08/2009 10:36:00 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
Have you never seen a home where the sheriff moved the people out!!! The contents are put on the curb, anyone that stops can have the stuff.

Many years ago I bought a house at foreclosure and the bank had to have the people moved out. I never bought another foreclosure that had people living in it. And I have bough many of them!!!

40 posted on 05/08/2009 10:40:38 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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