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1 posted on 05/12/2009 7:00:22 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Argh.

As a Combat Engineer myself, I hang my head in shame.


2 posted on 05/12/2009 7:01:38 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

John Russell. Hmmm....


3 posted on 05/12/2009 7:01:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Why are there firearms at a stress center?


4 posted on 05/12/2009 7:02:34 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

John Russell doesn’t sound like the name of a convert to the Religion of Peace, so I’ve got to wonder why the long delay in releasing his identity.


6 posted on 05/12/2009 7:02:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

This whole thing is just heart breaking.


7 posted on 05/12/2009 7:03:45 AM PDT by Bahbah (v)
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To: MozartLover; ohioWfan

sad ping


14 posted on 05/12/2009 7:08:03 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I wonder when we will learn it is actually “John Russell Muhammed.” Kinda like John Allen Muhammed: AKA “The Beltway Sniper.”


19 posted on 05/12/2009 7:09:52 AM PDT by ponygirl
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

55th Medical Company is an Indianapolis-based Army Reserve Unit.

This one is going to hurt for us, I fear.


21 posted on 05/12/2009 7:10:12 AM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Just askin’...

I wonder if this has anything to do with women serving in the military?

And Russell felt jolted or insulted and went off the deep end.


24 posted on 05/12/2009 7:11:08 AM PDT by proudpapa (Obama - Worst One Ever!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
If this guy is a member of the Religion of Pieces then I say..."guilty as charged".No further debate needed.If not I'd at least be willing to listen to an account of his service record (good...bad...in between),paying particular attention to his tours in Iraq.Never having been stationed in any place more dangerous than Fort Knox,KY I can't speak from first hand knowledge about "combat stress" or any related subject.But,in my un-informed opinion three tours in Iraq could very possible take its toll on just about anyone.

OK...flame away! I have my asbestos suit on!

25 posted on 05/12/2009 7:15:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Acts have reasons, and senseless acts point to faulty reason.

The essence of evil lies in the irrational.


27 posted on 05/12/2009 7:16:23 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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“Other U.S. troops have turned their weapons on fellow soldiers during the Iraq war about a half-dozen times, according to Pentagon data.”

January 30, 2006, Goleta, California: former mail processor Jennifer San Marco, 44, kills six employees (five immediately, another died later). A possible seventh victim, a former neighbor, was found dead in her apartment and has yet to be confirmed to be of the same shooting. Marco committed suicide at the sorting facility. [2][3][4]

April 4, 2006, Baker City, Oregon: Grant Gallaher, letter carrier of thirteen years, while on duty in Baker City, Oregon, reportedly went home and got his .357 Magnum revolver and drove to the city post office with the intention of killing his postmaster. Arriving at the parking lot, he reportedly ran over his supervisor several times. Subsequently he went into the post office looking for his postmaster. Not finding the postmaster, he went back out to the parking lot and shot his supervisor several times at close range, ostensibly to make sure she was dead. He reportedly then fired three bullets in the windshield of her car and three more in the hood.(Musacco, 2009)

November 28, 2006, [San Francisco , California]]: Kevin Tartt, age 39, with eighteen years of service, employed at the Napoleon Street Carrier Annex in San Francisco, went to his supervisor’s residence, armed with a revolver and shot her in the back of the head outside of her house. He then reportedly left the scene and fatally shot himself in the head with the same gun the next day. Early in the investigation, homicide investigators were reportedly looking at links between disputes between Julius Tartt and his supervisor, including what one police official referred to as a discipline issue. One of the homicide officials stated that there were indications that Julius Tartt was dissatisfied with work and with the supervisor. During the timeframe of the tragedy, he was absent from work and had called in sick the previous day.


30 posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:15 AM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

What we’ll probably find is whack job a la Kleibald and Harris.

All full of a hyper inflated sense of self esteem and too stupid to follow simple orders.

This falls under the headline “sh*t happens”, and in a war zone, it happens more often than not.

Pray for the families.


33 posted on 05/12/2009 7:29:51 AM PDT by sneakin (Remember, always pillage BEFORE you burn.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

How sad for all.
What the heck is a stress clinic?


43 posted on 05/12/2009 7:39:46 AM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The dead included two military doctors and three enlisted personnel.
45 posted on 05/12/2009 7:41:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I want to see a picture


48 posted on 05/12/2009 7:45:47 AM PDT by the long march
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Excuse me a moment while I RANT ;)

ALL those on this thread who JUMP to conclusions before even READING the damn article could have waited to READ before posting.

Every day I read threads on our wonderful FR with comments so ignorant and agenda driven it makes me sick. I don’t mean one-liner jokes or funny lines...I mean assumptions based on pet points of view- whether based on reality or not- makes no difference.

We- and I include myself- ALL would be better served by learning to think before spouting off in ignorance. Mental discipline and actual thought aren’t nearly as much fun as knee-jerk rections, I’ll grant you that.

Looks like DU around here sometimes. And I don’t mean the point of view- I mean the thought-less comments.

end rant


55 posted on 05/12/2009 7:53:30 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Before we start blaming anyone or anything other than the perp let it be known that there are LESS incidents of this type in the US Military than ANY OTHER WALK OF LIFE.

This is a sad anomaly for the United States Armed Forces and a tragic end for the five troops who were killed by this Soldier.

81 posted on 05/12/2009 9:52:48 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Obviously the young man is insane ...but I’m interested to know what his story is. Prayers to all families involved.

It’s not easy being a soldier in a combat zone today. Back in the RVN, as bad as that was, at least we had opportunities to relieve stress.

And worst of all anybody that wants to be an officer today ...can be.


88 posted on 05/12/2009 10:29:24 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It would seem more prudent to await the IO’s findings rather than engage in mindless speculation.
105 posted on 05/12/2009 2:22:27 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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