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They Killed Neda but Not Her Voice
Michelle Malkin ^ | 06/21/2009 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 06/21/2009 8:46:25 AM PDT by fiscon1

Her name was Neda, which means “voice” in Farsi. According to numerous online accounts picked up by media outlets worldwide, she was shot in the streets by Iranian state police while protesting today. This is what repression looks (warning: graphic):

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TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: crime; foreignpolicy; hussein; iran; iranviolence2009; malkin; neda; nedasoltan; studentmovement; votedpresent
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To: AnAmericanMother

“Franklin’s negotiations, and the victory at Saratoga”*

Which we won without ANY French help. Like I said, France was bringing treats to the party when it was already winding down. As for my alleged lack of knowledge about history, you can go to hell.


161 posted on 06/21/2009 11:54:03 AM PDT by seatrout (Trying to democratize a Muslim Middle Eastern nation is like teaching a cat to bark!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Hon, I never, ever, said the "kids" in Iran taking to the street were wrong. Twisting facts will get you nowhere in a hurry.
162 posted on 06/21/2009 11:55:35 AM PDT by seatrout (Trying to democratize a Muslim Middle Eastern nation is like teaching a cat to bark!)
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To: seatrout

You compared her to Corrie, who DID have it coming to her.


163 posted on 06/21/2009 11:55:44 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

—You compared her to Corrie, who DID have it coming to her.—

Why, because she was anti-Zionist? When so many members of our movement insist on putting on the kneepads for Israel, it makes me worry greatly about the future of conservatism.


164 posted on 06/21/2009 11:57:13 AM PDT by seatrout (Trying to democratize a Muslim Middle Eastern nation is like teaching a cat to bark!)
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To: seatrout
Why, because she was anti-Zionist?

No, you idiot, because she stepped in front of a bulldozer in a place where the driver could not see her.

You Buchananites sure have a touching Jooooo trigger.

165 posted on 06/21/2009 11:58:33 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: seatrout
You said Yorktown, now you're saying Saratoga. Four years is forever in a war. And that begs the question of the Caribbean campaign. I'd say my assessment of your historical knowledge was spot on.

And I'm not going to hell on your or anyone else's say-so, and certainly not for telling the truth about your education or lack thereof.

166 posted on 06/21/2009 11:59:07 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: seatrout
When so many members of our movement insist on putting on the kneepads for Israel, it makes me worry greatly about the future of conservatism.

By the way, you're mighty quick with the homosexual allusions.

Is there anything you'd like to, you know, get off your chest?

167 posted on 06/21/2009 11:59:38 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: seatrout

It’s just funny, that’s all.


168 posted on 06/21/2009 11:59:59 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Petronski

Ach!

“touching” should be “touchy”


169 posted on 06/21/2009 12:00:17 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Hon, the Caribbean Campaign was being waged for France's benefit, not the United States'. And keep in mind French Admiral de Grasse's fleet was eventually destroyed by the British in the Caribbean! Google "Battle of the Saints" (1/1781) and you'll learn the truth.
170 posted on 06/21/2009 12:02:18 PM PDT by seatrout (Trying to democratize a Muslim Middle Eastern nation is like teaching a cat to bark!)
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To: Petronski

Nothing to do with homosexuality. Really it is the whorish behavior of so many who fancy themselves “conservatives” towards Israeli interests which is so disturbing.


171 posted on 06/21/2009 12:04:17 PM PDT by seatrout (Trying to democratize a Muslim Middle Eastern nation is like teaching a cat to bark!)
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To: seatrout
Don't forget, the Shah was overthrown because he wanted to modernize Iran, and the Iranian public was horrified at the very thought of modernity.

What we have now was created by the left.

The left will do anything to undermine that which is truly progressive and good.

What irony.


172 posted on 06/21/2009 12:09:37 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin: Iron Lady of the North)
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To: seatrout; AnAmericanMother
Oh, quit calling people "hon'" you little homo.

You're trying to come off as tough but you really just look like an asshat.

Grow up.

173 posted on 06/21/2009 12:17:09 PM PDT by Allegra ( Iran Azadi!)
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To: Allegra
The scumbags who interfered in Iraq with EFPs, mortars and rockets are the very ones the Iranian people are rising up against.

So true, so true.

You take care now ya'hear?

174 posted on 06/21/2009 12:20:57 PM PDT by amom (Proud tanker mom - Remembering Tonk)
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To: seatrout

175 posted on 06/21/2009 12:23:49 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: seatrout
It's "Saintes", at least get your facts straight. And it didn't matter after the Second Battle of the Capes.

And it was Rodney in command at Dominica (with revolutionary tactics that would be followed up by Lord Nelson), not that bungler Graves.

And in the larger picture (as somebody already pointed out to you up thread, but maybe you need it spelled out again), there was never an ally yet that didn't see something in it for itself. The French operations in the Caribbean (as well as in India, South America, and Africa) kept a good portion of the Royal Navy preoccupied and men and materiel committed elsewhere. It also kept the trade lifelines to America open - the attempted British blockade failed.

The French made the American Revolution a global war, to Britain's disadvantage. I don't hold any brief for them, but I can acknowledge their just due.

176 posted on 06/21/2009 12:24:21 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Allegra; seatrout
I had noticed that but really it says more about him (her?) than any of us.

As my dear old dad says, "Consider the source."

177 posted on 06/21/2009 12:25:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Allegra

I suppose the 7-year-old Tehrani boy was only beaten by Basiji thugs because he had it coming too.


178 posted on 06/21/2009 12:25:41 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Allegra
Oh, quit calling people "hon'" you little homo.

Well.....that'll straiten him out!

Aloha Allegra!

Speaking of Straits, how do things look from your side of the Strait?
179 posted on 06/21/2009 12:29:04 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: seatrout
“Franklin’s negotiations, and the victory at Saratoga”*

Which we won without ANY French help.

Tell me again, how we won Franklin's negotiations without any French help.

Can you point me to an order of battle for Saratoga, with the disposition and location of the nearest Continental, British, Hessian, Indian, and French troops? How about their supply lines?

As for my alleged lack of knowledge about history, you can go to hell.

Back it up. What classes have you attended on history, from which University? What were your grades?

Name the last three books you have read on history, how long ago you read them, and who were their authors?

(Hint: strategic geopolitical considerations often involve more than direct military assistance: but sometimes, even the *possibility* of forthcoming assistance changes the calculus for the other players. This is why "statements" and "declarations" matter. Given that we have a (battle-tested) force in theatre in Iraq, and remain a superpower, Iran has to be looking nervously at what we *could* do. (If they couldn't defeat Iraq in eight years, while we went through Iraq's army like wet Kleenex, how hard would it be for us to take out the Mullahs -- they don't care about chaos in the country for its own sake, after we've removed them or killed them, you know.)

And the presence of the counter-demonstrators, and the remarks of some of the oppressors (as in a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2276243/posts">this thread ("“I have children, I have a wife, I don’t want to beat people. Please go home.”), show that there is not the market for the same counter-insurgency as in Iraq: indeed, Iran is the *source* of many of the Iraq "insurgents" -- if their home base is destroyed, what do they do?

Nice try though.

Cheers!

180 posted on 06/21/2009 12:33:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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