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Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die
American Spectator ^ | 6.25.09 @ 2:36PM | By Matthew Vadum

Posted on 06/25/2009 11:43:36 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Rationing is already here. The insurance companies ration health care everyday. The measurement they use is company profit, cant pay to many claims or profit will suffer as is well known to anyone who has ever had a major illness or accident insurance companies are in the business of making a profit not paying claims.

As for myself, and being a geezer, I think at some point accepting useless medical care is squandering my children's future. It seems illogical to yell about the deficits we are leaving our children but at the same time demand every last dime out of the health care system..

41 posted on 06/25/2009 12:12:58 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die”
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This old jarhead has seen lotsa punks come and go—what with the decay of society on the whole, it’s getting to be interesting seeing more-n-more of the punks go!

Think I’ll stick around and watch...and...watch, and watch!!!!
You betcha @$$!!!!!

Semper Fidelis
Dick G
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42 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:21 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

In both his news conference and infomercial, the President almost taunted private insurers abIout “competing” with his proposed “public option”. As a by-product of the Chicago Machine, “competition” to him may mean something different than what most of us would assume, like the same rules, a level playing field, things like that. Has anyone heard about eliminating the barriers private companies have for interstate sales? Mandates? Of course not.In the private sector, premiums are a function of: Risk; the cost of actual previous experience; administrative expenses; taxes; profit (he hates that word) margin and RESERVES FOR FUTURE CLAIMS,(the reserves for VA,zero;Medicaid,zero; Medicare,$31trillion UNFUNDED liability). Private insurer costs are offset by investment earnings that a “public option” won’t have. What replaces not only the investment earnings but lost investment capital for the economy? Isn’t it clear Obama wants to control both risk and capital,the 2 primary elemnts of a market economy? An unlevel playing field tilts the “game” Chicago Machine style to the “public option” and will lead, through “competition” to the desired goal, a single payor system. To paraphrase Alinsky: the organizer must have sight of the long term goal, but must work towards and appreciate UNCHANGABLE incremental successes. Go Comrade Go.


43 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:37 PM PDT by easttennesseejohn
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To: handy old one

yes, and if you have a spinal cord injury you end up as fish food


44 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:46 PM PDT by sfvgto (Dear Congress, my name is Jimmie....gimmie, gimmie, gimmie)
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To: Patsygirl

Do you think any of the old Jews in Florida will somehow realize they signed their own death warrants when they voted for this clown?


45 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:54 PM PDT by pistolpetestoys (Outside of a dog a book is a mans best friend;inside a dog it's too dark to read.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die"


46 posted on 06/25/2009 12:16:07 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Health Policy Professor Discusses The 'Cost-Benefit' Of Elderly Recieving Federal Healthcare
47 posted on 06/25/2009 12:17:33 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Does that mean fat Ted Kennedy is not gonna get any more care????.....ohhh but hes got the senate health care!!!
48 posted on 06/25/2009 12:19:36 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

If you cease being pesky, you’ll be ok. lol


49 posted on 06/25/2009 12:20:10 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Prediction: Obamacare will be D.O.A. just like Hillarycare was...
50 posted on 06/25/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: griswold3

This is about more destruction of capital and destruction of capitalism and the freedom that accompanies it.

These are the Marxist Enemies of all Free Men.

I will not be a “good little Dhemmi”.


51 posted on 06/25/2009 12:22:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: handy old one
LOL
Be real
Democrats love the pigs sucking at govt teat
How else would they be able to pass this BS.
My only consolation is that these same mosquito's,(blood sucking bastards)
will be first to have their bennies cut under new rules.

If this was not a power grab but true reform, I would offer an easy alternative to health care reform.

Make health insurance only for catastrophic illness.
Everyday concerns pay as you go.

Pay a retainer to local Doctor, 100-200 /month. Not much more than car/home insurance.

Then do away with blood sucking tort lawyers.
Doctors are people not God, get liability insurance under control.

Lastly , how to put this without being banned.

Get liberalism declared mental illness, sterilize anyone showing liberal tendencies, do not allow adoption,do not allow to be teachers.

52 posted on 06/25/2009 12:25:13 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Pissing off a geezer can be hazardous to your health.


53 posted on 06/25/2009 12:28:07 PM PDT by beelzepug (It's not what you said, it's how you said it.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

So will about everything else we do.


54 posted on 06/25/2009 12:34:04 PM PDT by Texas resident
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To: montanajoe
Rationing is already here.

That's for sure. I had to fight BCBS tooth and nail to get them to pay what they should on my husband's triple bypass, they kept paying claims at 50% instead of 90%. I was on the phone with them at least 2 hours a day for months.

They also recently forced us onto a mail-in prescription plan that has been a total nightmare, they cut one of my prescriptions by half of the doseage that was prescribed by my doctor and I had to file a formal complaint with our HR department over it before they restored it.

Then I just received a letter from a subrogation recovery firm yesterday about my husband's lumbar injections even though the medical reports clearly state the deterioration in his back is due to age related issues. I also got notice that BCBS has so far denied to pay the claim even though the procedure was pre-approved.

The worst part of it all is that by the time they pay the claims as they are supposed to, it starts affecting your credit.

55 posted on 06/25/2009 12:37:40 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Americans for Prosperity

TELL NANCY PELOSI AND HARRY REID:
Hands Off My Health Care!

Sign the Petition Today!

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are trying to seize control of our health care, and to pay for it they want to cut existing Medicare benefits and raise our taxes! Their government -takeover of health care will drive us deeper into debt and it won't even help most of those they claim they want to help - the uninsured.
Patients like us have been left out. We can't sit by and let this happen, or else we lose:

  • Our choice of doctors
  • All control of our health insurance options
  • Timely access to quality health care
  • Money by paying for a government takeover

Tell Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid
Hands Off My Health Care!

Visit www.JoinPatientsFirst.com to sign the petition! Contact your senators and tell them to keep their hands off your health care!


56 posted on 06/25/2009 12:41:13 PM PDT by blondee123 (Barack O'Lenin, King of United Socialist America!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I believe in the video he was talking about the necessity to bring in another doctor other than the abortionist to assess the baby. You are right that he also directed the word “burden” to the mother, parents or society who may now be responsible for additional unanticipated medical expenses.

From what we heard last night - he clearly believes it is the duty of the baby and the medical staff to allow the baby to expire without any attempt to secure life and the blessings of liberty for him/her.


57 posted on 06/25/2009 12:44:39 PM PDT by Tweeker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Here comes the rationing...”

followed by a hefty spike in the death tax income to the U S Treasury.


58 posted on 06/25/2009 12:49:25 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Texas Fossil

They have proposed 50% inheritance tax to pay for National Health Care.

What is the current %% of inheritance tax???


59 posted on 06/25/2009 12:50:17 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: traditional1

Being a proud member of Geezer-R-Us, I resent the idea that the Inheritance Tax revenue is driving this, I think...they want those old-timers to go so the revenue stream can be used to offset the Trillions they need to insure drug addicts, welfare recipients, illegal squatters, and the homeless......they probably already have counted how much they can gain in Death Tax dollars in their calculations of Baby Boomer estates.....”

It is a two-fer:

Don’t spend money on us to keep us alive.

Raise more death (inheritance) taxes with a spike of dead people.

A three-fer if you count that fewer of us will demand food and water. At the rate that they are pushing to shut down ranches and farms in the USA, you will be soon held hostage to another country for your food. Other countries don’t have near the standards of cleanliness and lack of pesticides that we do...You take your chances eating their stuff.

Then E-coli will run rampant, killing even more of us.

Pretty soon, Wildlands Project has the 90% reduction in USA population they have been preaching for a number of years.


60 posted on 06/25/2009 12:54:17 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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