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1 posted on 08/27/2009 1:04:35 PM PDT by TomTGradeczek
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2 posted on 08/27/2009 1:06:19 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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IBTZ, you communist hack!


3 posted on 08/27/2009 1:06:28 PM PDT by Yossarian
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Suck on this ZOT!


5 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:18 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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This isn’t about health care. It’s about stopping an intrusive, out-of-control federal government that is intent on shredding the freedoms guaranteed to us by our constitution.

But you knew that.


6 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:22 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (What came first? The word, or the thought behind the word?)
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I’m laughing.
VA was some of the worst health “care” I’ve ever seen.
Don’t get me started on Army doctors.


7 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:24 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Keep your laws off my BODY!

When this “health care for all” crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage. It also says that HSA’s will no longer be allowed. That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.

I will not accept the “public option” that I will be dictated to join. I will not give the government control over my physical body. I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.

How’s that for unification, libtards? You loons are currently legislating my death. I will chose the terms and I will bring as many of you along as possible!

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8 posted on 08/27/2009 1:08:41 PM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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BlueCross BlueShield has done me better than anything run by bureaucrats troll.


9 posted on 08/27/2009 1:09:25 PM PDT by A message (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days until Jim Thompson is President)
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You sir are a fake, phony, fraud. Now get off my forum you bum.
10 posted on 08/27/2009 1:09:28 PM PDT by McGruff
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lol.

This makesd no logical sense.


12 posted on 08/27/2009 1:10:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Ted is dead, sir- begins train ride to hell .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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ZOT!


13 posted on 08/27/2009 1:11:15 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Good grief. Millios upon Millions have used these insurance companies, and he claims they were the worst he ever had. What a lie.


14 posted on 08/27/2009 1:11:38 PM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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Not much for FREEDOM, are you!? Oh, and economics must not be your strong suit, either. Go away, troll.


17 posted on 08/27/2009 1:12:58 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Tell everyone, DEMS are the RACISTS...they created the KKK and Jim Crow Laws...to start)
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I’ve had experiences with Govt run health care - in China. Maybe their problem is that they started socialized medicine when they were a poor country. In sum, it was awful. The cost was very low, but poor service (and sanitation) meant one would have to wait in lines foreover. Also, anyone seeking good care would need to make friends and quietly pay bribes to the good doctors to see have them see you. Their socialized medicine became such a joke that a private system operating both legally and illegally exists next to it. It now combines the worst of both systems....


18 posted on 08/27/2009 1:13:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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If you enjoyed the health care in Canada so much, why did you bother to come back to the U.S.?


19 posted on 08/27/2009 1:13:33 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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“For this I could pick my own doctor and all the prescriptions were extremely inexpensive (which is why Americans are running across the border to buy prescription drugs in Canada).”



Canada (among many other countries) dictated terms to the pharmaceutical companies. Either supply the drugs at a deep discount, or generic drugs would be allowed to compete against the patent medicines. It's free-riding plain and simple. Americans pay the full freight for developing the drugs. The rest of the world pays a far smaller share of R&D costs. If the same prices were offered in the U.S.; few, if any, new treatments would be developed there.



I'm a Canadian & I don't deny that I'm happy to take advantage of the situation. At least I recognize it for what it is -- there's no magical formula that will cut drug costs for everyone (but, perhaps Americans would be paying less, if the rest of the world payed a bit more).

20 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:19 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Hey Tom,

I have a buddy of mine with liver desease who was misdiagnosed by Canadien health care and had to come here. Got different mode of treatment here. Got different drugs here. Got a new liver- here.

How come there are so many Canadiens coming accross the border into Minnesota for treatment Tom? Why is the Canadien government allowing individuals to buy private coverage in Canada now Tom? Remember, they used to make that illegal Tom?

21 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:37 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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Isn’t there supposed to be a footnote “Advertisement” somewhere here?


22 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:51 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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“The absolute worst medical care I got in the last 40 years that I’ve used private insurers, government program insurers, and just paying for medical and dental care out of my pocket was with private insurance carriers, because they are basically charging us all a hidden tax of about 28% of every dollar we spend to pay for other things besides actual health care and administration is for outrageous executive salaries, stock options, advertising designed to scare us all into worrying about health care if these companies don’t make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits and “return on investment” (Private insurance companies make us all feel like cattle).”

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Wow!! With sentences like that I bet your books REALLY suck!


23 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:52 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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IBTZ
(lowest number ever)


24 posted on 08/27/2009 1:14:53 PM PDT by PjhCPA
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27 posted on 08/27/2009 1:16:19 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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