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NY 23: Scozzafava Drops Out; Who Does it Help?
DBKP ^ | October 31, 2009 | Mondo Frazier

Posted on 10/31/2009 8:46:29 AM PDT by mondoreb

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SCOZZAFAVA's DROPPING OUT: WHO DOES IT HELP?

HOFFMENTUM!

Dede Scozzafava is suspending her campaign in New York's 23rd Congressional District.

From BREAKING: Scozzafava suspends NY 23 campaign:

Republican Dede Scozzafava has suspended her bid in next Tuesday’s NY 23 special election, a huge development that dramatically shakes up the race. She did not endorse either of her two opponents -- Conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman or Democrat Bill Owens.

Scozzafava has “probably made her last campaign appearance between now and Election Day,” spokesman Matt Burns told POLITICO. “She’s releasing her support to the two other candidates." "I had a discussion with her last night, and we made the decision after I spoke with her. We talked about it, what this came down to was spending. It came down to the ability to defend herself from the get-go. And that’s the reality. She was unable to define herself where the people didn’t know her."

Who does this benefit? And who does this hurt?

There has been some speculation that Scozzafava siphoned off liberal votes from Democrat candidate Bill Owens. In this line of thought, with Scozzafava in the race, it benefited Doug Hoffman's Conservative/Independent bid.

But the last polling data that this writer saw, Scozzafava supporters were 2-1 Republicans. So that would seem to indicate her dropping out would be a big benefit to Hoffman.

Recent days have seen Hoffmentum! taking place with even Tim Pawlenty and cautious members of Congress climbing on board the Hoffman bandwagon--once it got rolling.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: billowens; campaign; dedescozzafava; doughoffman; ny2009; nygop
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Dede Scozzafava suspends her campaign for NY-23's congressional seat. Who does it help--and hurt?
1 posted on 10/31/2009 8:46:30 AM PDT by mondoreb
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To: mondoreb

It does NOT help the GOP/RNC. If she supports the dim, it is OVER for the GOP/RNC.


2 posted on 10/31/2009 8:47:33 AM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: mondoreb

I guess we’ll find out on election day.


3 posted on 10/31/2009 8:47:55 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: mondoreb
Hoffman, this is a GOP district. The fact the Democrat is now running ads waving his military service indicates this is NOT a liberal district.
4 posted on 10/31/2009 8:48:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: devane617

i disagree i think if she supports the dem it will prove all of us right that she was just a front for the dems. but i think she will support hoffman! great news


5 posted on 10/31/2009 8:48:46 AM PDT by remaxagnt (`)
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To: mondoreb

“Dede Scozzafava suspends her campaign for NY-23’s congressional seat. Who does it help—and hurt?”

Well, it reduces the baby-killer candidate count by half, so I’d say our side wins. GO HOFFMAN!


6 posted on 10/31/2009 8:48:51 AM PDT by austinrepub
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Don’t forget what happened in Maryland’s 1st congressional district. When conservatives rose up and defeated the rino, the rino endorse the democrat just before the election and the dem won in a very close race.

NEVER TRUST A RINO!

SCREW NEWT, STEELE, AND THE RNC!!!


7 posted on 10/31/2009 8:49:09 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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I think it helps Hoffman. I think it is good. Might help Newt, too, as he had gotten himself into somewhat of a pickle.


8 posted on 10/31/2009 8:49:31 AM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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It helps America. Conservatism has sent the RINO Party a message.


9 posted on 10/31/2009 8:49:51 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: mondoreb

My goodness! Thats one fugly woman inside and out!


10 posted on 10/31/2009 8:50:02 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MNJohnnie

A democrat hasn’t won in that district since the civil war.


11 posted on 10/31/2009 8:50:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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As I've said on other threads I think that >50% of Sozzafava's supporters are Liberals and will tend to support Owens over Hoffman. Also, 20% or so are still undecided. I believe that >50% of independent/Undecided voters will be reluctant to support a third party conservative candidate and will tend to go with the Democrat in the race, just because it's a major party.

I think Scozzafava is doing this today in an effort to screw Hoffman, and I think it's being done by orders of the GOP establishment who don't want to see a third party or conservative win.

12 posted on 10/31/2009 8:50:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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I think it will split close to even. I’m sure much of her core supporters will either vote for the dem, or stay home.


13 posted on 10/31/2009 8:50:40 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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It'll help Hoffman.

Does anyone know the "early voting" situation there? If half the registered voters have already voted, the effects of Dede's withdrawal will obviously be diminished.

14 posted on 10/31/2009 8:51:00 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Now with ConstructionCam! Click on my name and follow the progress.)
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Is the NRC going to get behind Hoffman & run ads for him?


15 posted on 10/31/2009 8:51:40 AM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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Would you care to offer anything, other then your opinion, that those supporting Dede are "Liberal"?

This is a GOP district, this seat has been held by the GOP since the Civil War. The guy they are replacing is a solidly Pro Life social conservative.

More likely most of these people are voting for the R next to her name, not Dede's views.

16 posted on 10/31/2009 8:55:17 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: LADY J

Wow! All good points.

The latest polling data I saw showed that Scozzafava’s support was 2-1 made up of Republicans.

But it had been argued that she was so liberal, her staying in the race benefited Hoffman.

If Hoffman wins, and that’s looking more likely from my point of view, Sarah Palin is one BIG beneficiary for backing him early on.

Newt remains a loser on this issue, in my opinion.


17 posted on 10/31/2009 8:56:37 AM PDT by mondoreb (Proud to be "half-baked".)
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Politico has this story now too. A quote from that source is “A senior Democrat said the party will work to get Scozzafava to endorse Owens in an attempt to pick up some of her moderate supporters.”

So, overall, positive news in the right direction, but this election is not over yet. Beware the RATS looking to pick up Scuzzy’s endorsement.


18 posted on 10/31/2009 8:56:47 AM PDT by BAW (I support Doug Hoffman)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think Scozzafava is doing this today in an effort to screw Hoffman, and I think it's being done by orders of the GOP establishment who don't want to see a third party or conservative win.

I think you're completely correct on the first half but not so sure on the second. Still I wouldn't put it past them.

19 posted on 10/31/2009 8:58:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Yes. The Politico report said that Scozzafava’s letter dropping out contained this:

“I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my Party will emerge stronger and our District and our nation can take an important step towards restoring the enduring strength and economic prosperity that has defined us for generations.”

That would indicate she won’t endorse Owens, the Dem.


20 posted on 10/31/2009 8:58:43 AM PDT by mondoreb (Proud to be "half-baked".)
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