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Earth's Upper Atmosphere Cooling Dramatically
space.com ^ | 12/17/09 | http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/091217-agu-earth-atmosphere-cooling.html

Posted on 12/17/2009 5:00:34 PM PST by KevinDavis

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To: Cvengr

Hello? Not sure what’s going on here... :-)


41 posted on 12/17/2009 11:07:19 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

>> Climate change is the process of Global Warming and Global Cooling.

Climate change is a non-constant climate condition.

On the other hand, Climate Change is the new umbrella term for all things associated with the AGW agenda, including redistribution of wealth.

Climate Change and climate change are not the same thing - yet, through abuse of meaning, it’s portrayed by the Left to be inescapably the same thing. In other words, one must accept “Climate Change” because the phonetic and character sequence are both identical to “climate change”.

This is another example of semantic combat used by the Left to disrupt logical debate.


42 posted on 12/17/2009 11:46:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric
You were saying ...

This is another example of semantic combat used by the Left to disrupt logical debate.

In whatever semantic combat anyone wants to use, all that FReepers have to know is that the "normal processes" are -- Climate Change, which consists of Global Warming and Global Cooling. These are processes that go on regardless of what we do. And everyone can see them and has seen them in operation.

The part that is not valid is only this part -- "Anthropogenic Global Warming"... and that's it.

So, I advise FReepers to not get all "hyped up" about "Global Warming" and Global Cooling" (and the name for both of them "Climate Change") because these are nothing more than natural earth processes.

The only thing to be concerned about, and thus fight against as not valid -- is -- "Anthropogenic Global Warming"... and that's it... :-)

43 posted on 12/18/2009 7:34:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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So, let me get this straight. When the Atmosphere Cools,its Global Warming. When the Atmosphere heats up, it’s Global Warming ? Is there ever a point at which there is no warming ?

By George, I think you've got it! No matter what happens, it is "consistent with our models." Just don't ask us for the "data" our models are based on!

44 posted on 12/18/2009 9:24:07 AM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m not sure why you’re assigning a proper noun to global cooling, and also defining Climate Change as process of two other titles.

The public momentum that supports the AGW agenda is not driven by facts, but by sloganeering and imagery. If people are going to get hooked on two dimensional terminology, it’s worth considering the value of deconstructing it.


45 posted on 12/18/2009 10:04:42 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric
You were saying ...

I’m not sure why you’re assigning a proper noun to global cooling, and also defining Climate Change as process of two other titles.

Well, because "Global Warming" and "Global Cooling" and "Climate Change" are proper names/nouns for a process that we've had going on naturally on this earth for millennia.

In other words, it's their "proper names/nouns"... :-)

"Anthropogenic Global Warming" is also capitalized as it's a proper name for a process, too -- although this is a process that is a false and fake process and doesn't really happen.

The capital letters have nothing to do with the process... LOL...


If people are going to get hooked on two dimensional terminology, it’s worth considering the value of deconstructing it.

I "deconstruct it" by making sure that everyone knows that Global Warming and Global Cooling and Climate Change are all natural processes that have gone on for millennia and those processes happen without any help from mankind.

I also "deconstruct it" by making sure that everyone knows that what some of these scientists are talking about (and some of those politicians, too) -- is "Anthropogenic Global Warming" and this is what has absoluetely no scientific support.

46 posted on 12/18/2009 10:19:15 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Can we agree the horse is dead?


47 posted on 12/18/2009 11:48:19 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

He’s just involuntarily twitching right now... :-)


48 posted on 12/18/2009 12:43:20 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: KevinDavis
But but I thought the Earth was warming up????

It is. It's just the Atmosphere which is getting colder.

49 posted on 12/18/2009 9:43:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (<I>)
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To: UCANSEE2
It's just the Atmosphere which is getting colder.

Heat flows from hotter to colder(spontaneously). Carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere.

50 posted on 12/21/2009 8:00:45 PM PST by AndrewC
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