Posted on 12/28/2009 12:30:33 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo
VS. 
WHO: Yeffet Isaac, Former Director of El-Al Airlines Security -VS.- Ibrahim Hooper Executive Director of C.A.I.R.
WHAT: A Well Overdue DEBATE
WHEN: As Soon As Possible
WHERE: LIVE NATIONWIDE on American TV, CNN, FOX, Major Networks, Radio Stations, NPR, etc., With Studio Audience Able to Ask Questions
WHY: America dodged a major bullet on Christmas Day in Detroit. Reports are that additional terrorist acts involving US airliners are probably on the way. El-Al has a clean record of never being attacked by Islamist Extremists. C.A.I.R. has stated that the US should not, at all costs, racially and religiously profile passengers in the United States. Policy must be discussed and action must be taken.
HOW: Each Side Alloted 30 Minutes Presentation to Make His Case or His Experience in Thwarting Radical Islamic Terrorism and the Wisdom and Relevance of These Efforts. Then Counterarguments and Cross Examination, Audience Questions, and Closing Remarks. For a Period of Two Hours. The Debate Question? "Resolved, That All US Flights and Flights Destined For the United States from Abroad, Shall As Part of Their Screening and Security Operations, Immediately Commence Conducting Racial and Religious Profiling Of Each and Every Passenger, and Muslim Passengers or Others Fitting Established Risk Profiles Will Be Particularly Scrutinized Using Established El-Al Airlines-Type Security Techniques"
And time to put both viewpoints in the same ring at the same time, and let the American people decide what is prudent and what is insanity.
Thoughts?
It would be fun to watch, but there is about as much chance of the CAIR guy agreeing to it as me being elected Pope.
I think most Americans know that debate question is common sense and necessary. I also think if the audience voted 99% in favor of that idea, and/or polls showed 99% in favor of profiling muslims, we would be ignored. It’s not only the PC cr@p; it’s our current “leaders” being on the other side.
Again, we are dreaming, but if somehow this debate ever happened, there is no argument.
Life trumps political correctness.
El Al already does this, so we know in practice that MOST Muslims profiled would be only briefly inconvenienced. Therefore with freedom and life as the priorities, profiling in a decent but thorough manner would increase airline security about 200% from today.
It’s not about the stupid shoes or baby bottles with liquid in it. It’s about the MUSLIM EXTREMISTS (and the suckers they manage to convince to board planes to blow them up).
Definitely anyone who wants a quick security screening should be able to be pre-screened so that when they fly, their passport or ID shows them to be normal customers.
Also, screeners should be valued intelligent well-paid workers rather than illegal aliens working for minimum wage.
The various rigamarole that have us going through now to get on a plane is so idiotic and juvenile, and everyone knows it is just an exercise in making people feel good. Christmas Day was were the rubber really met the road. El-Al guys would have long screened that guy out of line, had him searched, found the stuff, and had him in cuffs LONG before he even set foot on such a plane.
I’d like to think they are doing profiling and just not telling us. American passengers understand the problem and want profiling. Truly only a terrorist front group would oppose what’s so obviously essential. CAIR is a terrorist front group.
Especially mooseSlime immigrants/domestics. ***cough cough Michganistanians*** cough cough...
There can be no other way around it. Yes.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2416079/posts
CAIR: Don’t racial profile after airline incidents
(AP) via KGAN.com ^ | December 27, 2009, 23:04 EST | n/a
Posted on December 27, 2009 8:43:56 PM PST by Cindy
CAIR: Don’t racial profile after airline incidents December 27, 2009 23:04 EST
SNIPPET: “WASHINGTON (AP) — A Muslim advocacy group is urging passengers, crews and security personnel to avoid ethnic and religious “profiling” in the wake of the attempted bombing of a Northwest Airlines flight in Detroit on Christmas Day.
In a statement, Ibrahim Hooper of the Washington, D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations says, “While everyone supports robust airline security measures, racial and religious profiling are in fact counterproductive and can lead to a climate of insecurity and fear.””
(Excerpt) Read more at kgan.com ...
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BUMP to post no. 5.
In the last 6 years I have completely negated any idea of taking a family vacation by plane, unfortunately because I live in Alaska if you want to go anywhere outside the state you must fly or spend a week driving to the lower 48, a trip to Disneyworld that is 5200 miles away would be cost prohibitive in fuel alone.
And so with all these problems of inept security at the airports I just stay at home.It would be nice to travel again and so there lies the problem, our government is manacled by political correctness and the public does not want a police state either.
America is receiving more Muslims every day, and every day there is an incident of a Muslim threatening to blow up something or chop off heads, right at this very minute there is an incident in Memphis, TN of such. Muslims are the pit bulls of society, everyone thinks they can be controlled by love and discipline, yet in most cases the pit bulls that suddenly turn against their masters are usually the ones that have no history of attacks, its a genetic issue. You don’t hear of collies or dachshunds going postal, yet pit bulls just do, out of the blue.
Profiling Muslims is our only acceptable way of a deterrent and ultimately we may very well have to consider an outright direct action that any Muslim must have a specific security background check or security clearance.
There is just no getting around the fact that like a pit bull a Muslim will always have that voice of their teachings to kill the infidels, no amount of singing kumbaya will silence that inner voice they have prayed to all their lives, Islam cannot exist in a Christian society, there must be barriers between the culture, this is one border that must be defended.
America must take actions to the point of vigilante individualism, people just walking off a plane if there are Muslims aboard is becoming the current protest and I agree with it, it should happen more often, of course then CAIR would protest and demand that there must be a percentage of Muslims on every flight all in the name of cultural diversity.
Thats bullcrap, its all about dominating a society and tipping the balance of power in their direction and controlling the infidels.There never will be a domesticated Islamic society in a free Christian society, to try to blend these different cultures and religions is proportionately identical to mixing a binary explosive.
Schedule and have the debate even if the moo from CAIR doesn’t show up.
Got it. Roger, copy.
Thank you.
But what I really do not kid you about is that off to the side of these comments, one will see a US State Department (or other agent) floating add inviting people to apply for a Lottery to GET A VISA TO LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES.Right there on these Middle Eastern websites frequented by radical youths with lots of time and no female (I wont say the word) on their hands.
This is a classic definition of INSANITY.
It is in fact NATIONAL SUICIDE for our nation to be placing such ads and running such lotteries on Middle Eastern, Arabic/Islamic websites.
Insaniacs are running our country.
I fully support your idea of a debate but it will never happen.
However, as someone else suggested, go ahead and hold the debate and have an empty chair where CIAR rep should be.
No muslims will be allowed in planes with non muslims (Infidels). Muzzies may only fly in planes that have 100% muzzie passengers, muzzie pilots and muzzies flight crews. The fact that it may take a while for these flights to fill and destinations will be limited, is just tuff luck for the muzzies they will just have to suffer through it. If they complain, they can always walk.
Large pictures of Porky Pig will be painted on the tails and fuselages of these planes so non muzzies can quickly identify them and avoid them if they so choose.
A positive result of this will be no more TSA searches of passengers or luggage. Time and money will be saved. CAIR and the democrats will not have to fret about racial or religious profiling, no fly lists, terrorist watch lists, or checking of passports anymore.
To ensure the safety and security of these flights and passengers, they will be escorted by at least two F15’s. If any suspicious behavior, erratic flight patterns, loss of transponder or radio contact is detected the escorting F15’s or air traffic control, the F15's have full authority to force the Porky Pig plane in question over water, un occupied land, Mecca, Medina, or a large pig farm, whichever is closest so they passengers are not put under any long periods of stress, and shoot it down. Hey all the males will get the 72 virgins and be martyrs for the ROP. As for the women on these flights well, they knew of the possibility of s**t happening before they got on the plane..
Its a pipe dream but it would be the debate of the decade and one this country sorely needs. The chick CAIR-ites would never come out of their bunkers for it. Cowards.
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