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To: Fennie

Take one of our older “obsolete” space shuttles and fill it with depleted uranium rods in tungsten casings and have it make a Mach 6 re-entry, I would think that should create some damaged.

The best way to defeat an underground target that deep is to come up from even deeper, there is technology to create a subterranean boring torpedo, it can be nuclear powered using a plasma cutting head, it only needs to be 2 foot in diameter.

Air drop it as close as possible and program it to burrow to the target, use an explosive device that may exclude nuclear fission, possibly anti-matter. And I’m not just thinking of Angels and Demons, anti matter is a reality. So is a plasma warhead.


2 posted on 12/28/2009 5:35:19 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Eye of Unk

Anti-matter is a reality?


11 posted on 12/28/2009 5:45:21 AM PST by wastedyears (If I'm going out, I'm going out like Slim Pickins in Dr. Strangelove.)
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To: Eye of Unk

I don’t care how deep it is, there’s an easy way to destroy it that doesn’t involves nukes, anti matter, or plasma warheads... The US and our allies know it but I doubt they’ll use it.


27 posted on 12/28/2009 6:33:01 AM PST by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Rather ironic that there's no word from the "One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day" crowd who should be HIGHLY concerned about one more nation with their hands on the nuclear bomb.

32 posted on 12/28/2009 6:46:11 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Eye of Unk
Take one of our older “obsolete” space shuttles and fill it with depleted uranium rods in tungsten casings and have it make a Mach 6 re-entry, I would think that should create some damaged.

Aside from the fact that the space shuttle can only do Mach 6 in the upper atmosphere, who would pilot it in this scenario?

Air drop it as close as possible and program it to burrow to the target, use an explosive device that may exclude nuclear fission, possibly anti-matter. And I’m not just thinking of Angels and Demons, anti matter is a reality.

While antimatter is indeed a reality, the total sum of antimatter produced so far is just about sufficient to blow up a mosquito. At current rates of production, making enough antimatter to produce a practical weapon would take several billion years.

35 posted on 12/28/2009 6:56:43 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh -- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Eye of Unk
The problem is, you are thinking 1st and 2d Challange. In 3d Challange warfare, we cannot afford to spend 27 trazilion dollars building such a weapon when they can spend $25,000 on flight lessons and a few nights at Motel 6, then hikack a 747 and fly it into a large building.

Remember, it was pure luck that the plane hit the Pentagon. The pilot couldn’t find the White House. It looks very different from the air. Try it on Google Earth.

The Shanksville A/C was headed for the Capitol Building. We had no viable ADA in place to protect either.

It's a different war, a different world.

46 posted on 12/28/2009 7:42:52 AM PST by MindBender26 (Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury selects a president !)
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To: Eye of Unk

Yes, antimatter is real. Anihilation (total conversion of mass to energy) is real, too.

However, the tech doesn’t exist yet to store/transport it, let alone in quantity. It is also the most expensive substance on Earth - about $25,000,000,000 per gram (cost to produce). That is, if you could produce and contain a whole gram at once.

Good old H-bomb is a LOT cheaper.

This is all beside the point, though. Find the air shafts and drop a few thermobaric bombs at their inlets. If the mach 20 shockwave doesn’t kill everyone in the compound, it will at least cut off the air supply. Either way, the facility would be destroyed.


78 posted on 12/28/2009 6:28:58 PM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Eye of Unk

I’m not so sure about anti-matter but plasma could work...assuming they still have the R&D funding after being Odummiesized.


80 posted on 12/28/2009 7:44:24 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Eye of Unk

“Bunker Buster” technology is quite mature. Basically, a bunker buster bomb is a worn out 155mm artillery tube driven with enormous force against a reinforced concrete wall that fires a huge charge once its momentum is spent. The enemy can have several layers (false voids) in front of the ulimate target. You may have to cascade several rounds.

A huge advantage is that once the bunker is pierced, it helps contain and amplify the damage resulting from the blast.


90 posted on 12/29/2009 6:14:36 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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