Posted on 01/02/2010 1:38:55 PM PST by wagglebee
Free Republic is a pro-life, conservative web site. Anyone who comes here pushing the dogma of the death cultists don’t really belong here. There should tread carefully cuz they don’t really belong here if they’re not pro-life. They could be kicked off FR if they get carried away.
>>So you agree that in the absence of such a document the presumption should be for life? Make up your mind. Life, or death? Which is it?<<
Neither. That is not the case. Mrs. Schaivo expressed her desires to her husband. He had the legal right and responsibility to carry out her wishes.
Straw man arguments are for the weak of character and mind. But, for the record, when did you stop beating your wife?
>>Free Republic is a pro-life, conservative web site. <<
I am for personal decisions and against fascism as is FR. Schaivo was a case in support of individual freedom.
People who support the Fascist Nanny State Government should probably be booted.
Is it permissible to refer to California as the land of fruits and nuts?
>>I’m wondering if you are on some kind of drugs, and/or into S&M. You’re a pretty strange character, and so full of bile that you can’t see yourself as you are. It’s quite sad, actually.<<
No bile, just against busybody fascists. As long as people want to use the government to interfere with individual life choices and brush the laws we agree to abide by aside, they will find me in their path.
I wouldn’t call Ca the land of fruit and nuts. That’s where FR is. lol
All of this back and forth stuff only points to one logical conclusion:
Everyone should have a written document stating their last wishes. This crap about who should be in charge of these decisions and when would have been avoided.
You should talk to an attorney before writing one out, or at least do a ton of research on the web because there are specific issues that need to be planned out.
But in the end, your (meaning everyone that reads this, no one in particular) wishes may be different than mine. But if you can point to a document that has been properly drafted, you can cut out the discussion pretty darned quick.
And waiting until the “death bed” is really not the time for the conversation. As my Dad told me, sitting there with a morphine drip—its a lot easier to talk about it, than do it. But it was the right thing for him.
Just my two cents.
The important thing is that some, somewhere, thinks he/she is Right and Good. The law cannot stand under such an assault.
I hope you remember that when your beloved shadow government orders your death, backed by the gun wielding fanatics who were at Terri's death bed. You may feel safe in the belief that it can't happen to you, but if it could happen to Terri, it could happen to anyone.
>>Everyone should have a written document stating their last wishes. This crap about who should be in charge of these decisions and when would have been avoided.<<
Heck YES! If anything “good” came from the Schaivo case, it was making it clear that everyone should put his/her final desires in writing — it can be done for next to nothing on the Internet.
That is why I and my wife have our final desires on file.
I am not saying it was “good” that Ms. Schaivo passed. The ambiguity she left has created a lot of problems for many.
But we can’t escape the legal issues as well and allowing the Government to interfere in our personal decisions. And the Governments ordering her desires be carried out is the best we could hope for.
But in the final analysis
was she also bulimic?
>>I hope you remember that when your beloved shadow government orders your death, backed by the gun wielding fanatics who were at Terri’s death bed. You may feel safe in the belief that it can’t happen to you, but if it could happen to Terri, it could happen to anyone. <<
Why, it didn’t do so for Schaivo.
You need to read for comprehension. It was HER DESIRE, as passed along by her legal representative, her husband. That is the law. If you want to change it — great.
If you want to BREAK it, then you need to go past me.
I have my final wishes on file. The government will not come to kill me as long as it follows the same law it followed for Schaivo.
It is fascists like YOU who will ask the Government to bypass the law and fulfill your moral wishes. As I said, when those wishes are not the same as yours, YOU and your little fascist friends will be the one responsible for Government-ordered executions.
So now you’re back to saying that in the absence of a written document, the presumption should be that she told her husband the opposite of what she told everyone else, and she should be killed. You’re saying that the presumption should be in favor of death, not life. But you’re too cowardly to admit that’s what you’re saying. Heck, you’re even too cowardly to stick with the same opinion for two consecutive posts.
>>So now you’re back to saying that in the absence of a written document, the presumption should be that she told her husband the opposite of what she told everyone else, and she should be killed. You’re saying that the presumption should be in favor of death, not life. But you’re too cowardly to admit that’s what you’re saying. Heck, you’re even too cowardly to stick with the same opinion for two consecutive posts.<<
You need to read for comprehension. I have been 100% consistent. The fact you don’t LIKE the fact I oppose your fascism doesn’t make me inconsistent.
Your pathetic attempts to make strawmen doesn’t really work. I hear the beatings you give your wife are not nearly as bad as they used to be.
The law is clear about who controls the final wishes of someone — the closest relative. In this case, the husband.
You don’t like it, change the law.
In the meantime, take your fascist desires of government domination into personal away.
The medical examiner said Terri didn’t have an eating disorder. Her family, and even her estranged husband agreed with that assessment. But somehow her nonexistent eating disorder is considered justification for starving and dehydrating her to death. Should we kill alleged alcoholics (even those proven innocent) by alcohol poisoning?
Check this thread out. “Our Pro-Life Message is Taking Hold”. Gee, doesn’t sound facist to me or hateful or evil... and there are those pesky Ten Commandments too. How does one get around those????
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2419667/posts
I will check out the link.
You need to learn the difference between comprehension and agreement. Just because I comprehend that you’re falsely accusing of Terri Schiavo of being complicit in her own murder doesn’t mean I agree with your lies.
Several laws were broken to achieve the murder of Terri Schiavo. You got what you wanted, but somehow it’s still not enough. You can’t get decent people to crave the blood of innocents, and that eats you up.
You’re wrong about fascism being the same thing as morals. There is a difference.
Oh really? Then please explain why he waited until AFTER Terri was awarded money before making these wishes known.
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