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High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early
NYTimes ^ | February 17, 2010 | By SAM DILLON

Posted on 02/18/2010 1:59:08 PM PST by fight_truth_decay

Dozens of public high schools in eight states will introduce a program next year allowing 10th graders who pass a battery of tests to get a diploma two years early and immediately enroll in community college.

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KEYWORDS: chspe; communitycollege; connecticut; education; highereducation; highschools; kentucky; maine; newhampshire; newmexico; pennsylvania; rhodeisland; teens; vermont
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Congress and the Obama administration are now putting together an education bill. It would cancel about $9 billion in annual government subsidies for banks that lend to college students and use much of the money to increase financial aid. A small portion of the money would be set aside for promising pilot programs aimed at lifting the number of college graduates
1 posted on 02/18/2010 1:59:08 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Yes. This is a solid idea.


2 posted on 02/18/2010 2:00:28 PM PST by furquhart (Would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?)
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To: furquhart

I can see both the good and the bad in this.


3 posted on 02/18/2010 2:03:34 PM PST by camerongood210
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To: fight_truth_decay

I can undetstand 1 year early, but 2 years seems out of line to me.


4 posted on 02/18/2010 2:04:39 PM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide

What’s the rush ?


5 posted on 02/18/2010 2:06:34 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Many states already have similar programs, but you don’t graduate early, you actually graduate and get your AA at the same time. College courses count for both high school and college credit. I think the school board covers the tuition of the student (which is A LOT cheaper than what it costs to keep a kid in regular HS for a year.)

http://www.spcollege.edu/central/de/index.htm


6 posted on 02/18/2010 2:06:53 PM PST by dawn53
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To: fight_truth_decay
High Schools to Offer Plan to Graduate 2 Years Early

LOL!
They are already doing that!

But they call it a High School diploma anyway, graduating equivalent 9th graders.

7 posted on 02/18/2010 2:07:05 PM PST by Publius6961 (You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do)
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To: furquhart

Loved to have had that option. High School was a 4 year stretch of boredom and rehashing with the exception of auto mechanics class.


8 posted on 02/18/2010 2:07:48 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Excellent plan. If a student can demonstrate the knowledge the system believes is essential, he should be able to get a diploma at any age, and then go to work or college.


9 posted on 02/18/2010 2:08:22 PM PST by Tax-chick (Cheeseburgers, parrots, volcanos, boats, rum, kittens ...)
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To: furquhart

Absolutely. Might as well go all out and remove the mandatory USELESS curriculum in university which are irrelevant. I had to waste my time with Literature just to get on to my majors in Business Management.


10 posted on 02/18/2010 2:13:20 PM PST by max americana
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To: wally_bert
Me, too. I was offered a GED back in 1968 and I could have left early, but a diploma was never in the offering. I didn't want to take a risk that I'd have to go hat in hand some day with a GED. Now, it seems that employers are thrilled to have a GED. I had all my honors classes and enough credits to graduate at the mid-term of my Junior year, but I had to stick it out and twiddle my thumbs so I could have a diploma. I think they've changed that. The education system has been a farce for all the years I was in it. Held me back every step of the way. Bummer and boredom with capital “Bs”.
11 posted on 02/18/2010 2:14:00 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: dawn53

Correct...I’ve a granddaughter that will graduate HS this June and will also have an AA from a community college. She was home schooled thru grammar school and then entered a home link program for middle school and first two years of HS. She had classes in HS and CC in her junior year and all classes are in CC for her senior year. It’s a good program.

That said, it’s not easy. She is a good student and a hard worker, the program wouldn’t be for everyone.


12 posted on 02/18/2010 2:14:59 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: rawhide

If they test that they know the material, let them get started on real school.


13 posted on 02/18/2010 2:17:16 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What’s the rush ?
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So?....Should parents and their kids make this decision or will you join with the “anointed” to dictate to others how they should live their lives.

For the bright child high school is boring!

Also,...By entering the work force two years early adds up to a $100,000 or more in earnings over a lifetime. It also gives the young adult an advantage in that they have the opportunity for more education at an earlier age or more work experience.

By the way my homeschoolers entered college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13. All three finished all college general courses and Calculus III by the age of 15. The two younger earned B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age of 18.

The oldest chose to attend part-time at night and work and train in his sport during the day. He will finish his masters in accounting soon at an age typical for his contemporaries.

14 posted on 02/18/2010 2:20:12 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The fact is, we as a society have been stretching the age of adolescence over the years. In the 18th and 19th centuries it was not uncommon for a fifteen/sixteen year old to go to college if he was prepared academically. Back then we had little concept of "adolescence." We had kids and we had adults. It worked pretty well.

There is a good case to be made that by entertaining people in a suspended state through their late teens as "adolescents" we merely delay their maturation and development.

For some it will remain a reasonable acommodation. But if someone can master the prerequisites, why not have the option to get on with it.

15 posted on 02/18/2010 2:20:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: camerongood210

I can see both the good and the bad in this.
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If there is both good and bad then it is the parents and children who should be making this decision, NOT an anointed Brahman class with their own jobs on the line.


16 posted on 02/18/2010 2:21:31 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: camerongood210
"I can see both the good and the bad in this."

It really comes down to the competency of the test and the test givers, doesn't it? The government doesn't inspire confidence in this regard.

17 posted on 02/18/2010 2:23:28 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: furquhart

Yes. This is a solid idea.
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I have a better idea.

Any child of any age should be permitted to take the GED. If they pass they should be awarded a **regular** and official diploma from their local government school.

Every year a bill that would allow any child of any age to take the GED is introduced in our legislature. Every year the teachers unions lobbies like mad to see it is defeated.


18 posted on 02/18/2010 2:24:13 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: wally_bert

Agreed.. This is a great idea IMO... That’s assuming the tests are up to snuff and are not a cake-walk.

This is a nice little carrot to hang out there to encourage students to take H.S. a little more seriously.

Don’t understand some of the imbeciles on here hammering this idea.


19 posted on 02/18/2010 2:26:24 PM PST by Onerom99 (I)
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To: Tax-chick
California: A straight-A transcript does not guarantee a student is ready for college-level work. About 20 percent of the freshmen who enter Cal State East Bay with a 4.0 GPA need at least some remediation in math, English or both, according to Greg Smith, associate vice president of enrollment for the university. The rate is about 60 percent when you include all first-time freshmen in the California State University system.

CHEYENNE — Less than a quarter of Wyoming high-school students who took the ACT college entrance exam tested well enough to show they are ready for college with 79 percent possibly needing remedial college classes.

NYC high school graduates not ready for success in college

Boston: Massachusetts may have one of the highest rates of students going to college, but the first statewide "school-to-college" report shows that 37 percent of public high school graduates who go for public higher education may not be ready.The joint report released by the Massachusetts Department of Education and Board of Higher Education showed that students lagging behind needed remedial courses in college.

Michael Moore spoke on the issue of education. Moore noted a poll done by National Geographic of the knowledge of young people in America. According to the poll, 80 percent of 18-25 year olds could not find Iraq on a map, 16 percent could not find Great Britain on a map and 11 percent could not find the United Sates on a map.

Moore continued: "We have trained our children to be test takers but we have not educated them," he said. "We are an idiot nation." "Walk into any pre-school and look at (the children), they are active and ready to learn," he said. "Look at them at 17 years old in high school, their minds are numb and deadened."

Can't dispute Moore on this and didn't think I would come down to quoting Moore.


20 posted on 02/18/2010 2:27:59 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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