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Catholic hospitals support health care bill
Yahoo News ^ | March 13, 2010 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 03/13/2010 5:07:52 PM PST by SloopJohnB

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To: SloopJohnB

>> A group representing Catholic hospitals

What group?


21 posted on 03/13/2010 5:24:52 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SloopJohnB
Catholic hospitals support health care bill
22 posted on 03/13/2010 5:25:05 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SloopJohnB
this is old news dressed up as new by Comrade Ricardo and there trying to phony “ Momentum “ scam again.

This lesbian head of this catholic church promoted this crap last summer.

More PR peddled by AP, a dedicated state Media operation.

23 posted on 03/13/2010 5:25:42 PM PST by ncalburt (e)
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To: SloopJohnB

Government cheese is hard to resist.

They might have offered to save St. Vincents in Manhattan.


24 posted on 03/13/2010 5:26:37 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Beware of the Socialist Government-Academia Grant Junkie-Rich "non-profit"-Liberal Media Complex)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
this group supported this crap back in August !

The AP and Obama propaganda wing is recycling OLD NEWS to try to do the “ Big Momentum “ PR scam.

Ricardo from the AP must work for OBama . He has been peddling WH faxes for the last year !

25 posted on 03/13/2010 5:30:13 PM PST by ncalburt (e)
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To: Gene Eric

Oh boy the votes must really not be there, the MSM is getting hysterical. What’s next Jesus in a piece of French Toast spelled out...I NEED OBAMACARE. Maybe this is the “Even the elect will be fooled” part of the Book of Revelations. I think we need to check Obabaa scalp pronto, I bet there is a 666 on it.


26 posted on 03/13/2010 5:30:48 PM PST by pburgh01
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I work for one of the largest East coast Catholic hospital systems - this is simply NOT true!


27 posted on 03/13/2010 5:32:10 PM PST by Babsig (Palin/DeMint 2012 (I AM Jim Thompson))
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To: SloopJohnB; NYer; Salvation
From the Catholic Key editor:
http://catholickey.blogspot.com/2009/08/sr-carol-keehan-catholic-healths-856093.html

Sr. Carol Keehan - Catholic Health's $856,093 Nun

Since the election and during the buildup toward health care reform, Sister Carol Keehan and the Catholic Health Association she leads have come up for sharp criticism from prolife advocates. For her public support of the president's pro-abortion appointees to her campaign to enact health care reform now, she is accused of being at odds with the USCCB and the prolife cause, both of which have serious reservations about current health care proposals.

Part of this uproar is due to confusion over the nature of the Catholic Health Association and Sister Carol's role.

CHA is not a repository of Catholic social teaching with regard to health care or an association of moral theologians or a charity in service of the poor. It is a trade association. There is nothing wrong with a trade association, but too many reporters, including members of the Catholic press, have sought comment from CHA without recognizing they are primarily an organization with a vested financial interest in the outcome of the health care debate.

CHA does not represent patients or the poor. Their board is composed of, and Sister Carol represents, the very highly compensated chief executives of large health care conglomerates throughout the country. Lay-led corporations such as San Francisco-based Catholic Healthcare West and St. Louis-based Ascension Health run dozens of hospitals across numerous states which at one time were directly operated by religious orders.

The executives at these companies are compensated as you'd expect the heads of large corporations to be compensated. In the last year figures are available, the head of Ascension Health made $1,756,790 plus $599,744 in deferred compensation and benefits. Catholic Health East's top exec made $1,185,000 plus $693,000 in deferred compensation and benefits. Both execs are on the board of CHA, where they are joined by numerous execs from similar health systems.

But the biggest fish is Lloyd Dean, former Chair and current Speaker of Membership Assembly on the Board of Trustees at CHA. Dean is head of Catholic Healthcare West with 41 hospitals and clinics in California, Nevada and Arizona.

In 2006, the last year figures are available, Dean made $4,001,892 and the Chronicle of Philanthropy named him the second highest paid non-profit executive in the United States. Dean's compensation, according the the Chronicle of Philanthropy, is based in part on "improvements in the organization's finances". As well it should be. Dean also has made gobs in his position on other boards, including Wells Fargo & Co. Dean is non-Catholic and a donor to both the DNC and the Obama campaign.

This is not to begrudge these executives their salaries. It is only to point out that it is their interest that Sister Carol serves. And she serves them very much as a peer.

Sister Carol is a former longtime health executive herself, and her compensation at Catholic Health Association is $856,093. This in an organization whose expenses are only $17,660,797. Three other employees at CHA each make more than $300,000.

You can compare that compensation with the total program expenses and top executive pay at other national non-profits:

World Vision Intl.
Expenses $1,497,032,856
Top Exec. $281,316

Food for the Poor
Expenses $1,037,301,081
Top Exec. $301,200

American Medical Association
Expenses $234,654,866
Top Exec. $696,521

American Bar Association
Expenses $171,780,689
Top Exec. $791,472

Catholic Health Association
Expenses $17,660,797
Top Exec. $856,093

Sister Carol does not keep her salary. It goes to her order. It's noted here to demonstrate that her compensation at CHA is much more in line with a trade association lobbyist than the head of a charity.

Reporters and news consumers should keep that in mind when soliciting CHA for comment on health care reform. Moral concerns are not their bottom line. The bottom line is.

28 posted on 03/13/2010 5:32:11 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA--a/k/a ObamaCare--or lose reelection)
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To: SloopJohnB
Its a FAKE Catholic group .

Gateway pundit just outed them.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/figures-fake-catholic-group-not-even-catholic-supports-senates-pro-abortion-health-care-bill/

29 posted on 03/13/2010 5:33:30 PM PST by ncalburt (e)
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To: driftdiver
Catholics supported the Kennedys.
Catholics support BO.
Catholics support Pelosi.
Catholics supported Kerry.

Correction:

Some "Catholics" supported the Kennedys.
Some "Catholics" support BO.
Some "Catholics" support Pelosi.
Some "Catholics" supported Kerry.

Engaging in exaggeration tends to cause the lucid to dismiss the exaggerator as a lunatic.

30 posted on 03/13/2010 5:33:39 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SloopJohnB

Catholic in name only.

http://cnsblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/vatican-statement-on-popes-meeting-with-nancy-pelosi/

“His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church’s consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoin all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development.”


31 posted on 03/13/2010 5:34:01 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: pnh102

They are probably CINO’s who belong to thug unions.


32 posted on 03/13/2010 5:37:05 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: eleni121
"The Roman Bishops have supported universal state insurance since the 1930s"

.But not the Bishop of Rome.

33 posted on 03/13/2010 5:38:42 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("My subject is the action of grace in territory largely held by the devil." Flannery O'Connor)
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To: SloopJohnB

The devil made them do it.


34 posted on 03/13/2010 5:39:39 PM PST by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: SloopJohnB

Don’t give a damn if the Pope himself supports it. The bill is dangerous.

I wonder what Hussein promised or threatened them with...


35 posted on 03/13/2010 5:41:34 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Babsig

I believe you. It’s pretty obvious that Barack the Kenyan and his band of ‘RATS are getting ready to “pass” CommieCare this week and are trying to get as much heat off their backs as they can. The state run “media” is in cahoots with the ‘RATS and is coming up with all kinds of lies and garbage this weekend. “Obama’s poor poll ratings are because he hasn’t passed healthcare or his bill ‘doesn’t go far enough’.” Unfortunately, there are a lot of people with very little or no intelligence living in the country who will believe these lies.


36 posted on 03/13/2010 5:41:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud American-American since 1949.)
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To: muawiyah
This will probably force the Church's hand to begin excommunicating irreconcilable sinners and perverts.

It is about frickin' time!

37 posted on 03/13/2010 5:42:38 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; All

“Catholic Health Association”....what is that? A liberal Catholic group? Lotsa larfs.


38 posted on 03/13/2010 5:43:10 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: cmj328

Thanks for this info.


39 posted on 03/13/2010 5:43:23 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("My subject is the action of grace in territory largely held by the devil." Flannery O'Connor)
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To: GeronL

My wife works at a Catholic hospital as a nurse. The admin types and most of the nurses support Obamacare. My wife is something of the odd one out....

In their defense, they currently do a lot of charity work taking care of patients other hospitals won’t see.


40 posted on 03/13/2010 5:43:51 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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