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Work or lose your benefits: Iain Duncan Smith heralds biggest shake-up of welfare state since war
Daily Mail ^ | 11:39 PM on 26th May 2010 | James Chapman

Posted on 05/26/2010 3:54:40 PM PDT by Niuhuru

Britain’s welfare system is ‘bust’ and faces its most radical overhaul for 60 years to undo Labour’s legacy of benefit dependency, Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has declared.

The former Tory leader vowed to end the scandal that means welfare claimants are no better off – and sometimes poorer – if they come off the dole to take jobs paying up to £15,000 a year.

He also signalled that benefit payments to the middle classes were likely to be pared back in favour of income tax cuts – and the state pension age might have to rise more quickly than planned.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: benefits; britain; british; government; lazy; mooch; moocher; sponger; spongers; taxcuts; tories; tory; useless; user; war; welfare; welfareclaimants
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This should be interesting to watch.
1 posted on 05/26/2010 3:54:40 PM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

Taking toys away from collectivist monkeys is never a pretty sight.


2 posted on 05/26/2010 3:56:08 PM PDT by avacado
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I’m sure there will be plenty of single mothers who will scream in rage at this. It’s too bad that conservatives always have to clean up the messes left by liberals.


3 posted on 05/26/2010 3:57:06 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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"vowed to end the scandal that means welfare claimants are no better off – and sometimes poorer – if they come off the dole to take jobs paying up to £15,000 a year."

They are poor because they are lazy. Start at £15,000 and work your damn way up a bit... Sheeze...

4 posted on 05/26/2010 3:57:55 PM PDT by avacado
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Not always. Lots of people get sick, go mental, or they get unemployed through losing their job. I don’t mind them, just the ones who stay on it for generations.


5 posted on 05/26/2010 4:01:04 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

I’ve always maintained that everyone on welfare should have to work for the government in order to receive the benefits.

Even if it meant they have be janitors or whatever. Or if there is no work needed, then they should dig holes in the ground and fill it up again later. I don’t care if the work is productive, only that they understand that nothing is free. That would encourage a lot of people to leave welfare and get real jobs.


6 posted on 05/26/2010 4:01:32 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Niuhuru

I don’t mind a social safety net at all. I just want to kick out all of those that use it as a hammock.


7 posted on 05/26/2010 4:03:40 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Truthsearcher

to be honest, I’m on SSD. I’m building my own business, but still need it since I got hit with a whopper of a depression and recent events have made it more worse. I might get stamps too, mainly to help me with my budget. I really don’t think working for the government will help my state of mind.

I am working on my own business, but still dealing with demons. That’s why I don’t mind people who really needs it.


8 posted on 05/26/2010 4:03:44 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Couldn’t have put it better.


9 posted on 05/26/2010 4:04:15 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: avacado
Taking toys away from collectivist monkeys is never a pretty sight.

Nope it isn't, however they are taking away from them what wasn't theirs in the first place aren't they.

10 posted on 05/26/2010 4:04:46 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Yeah, they actually need jobs for the people and how are they going to make that happen. Watching the total crash and burn of socialist Europe is fascinating.


11 posted on 05/26/2010 4:06:02 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: Truthsearcher

Brilliant post, but the socialist Democrats would never be able to keep their stanglehold on their indentured servants that way.

Still a brilliant idea.


12 posted on 05/26/2010 4:06:33 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: Niuhuru

Meanwhile, in this country, Obama guts welfare reform.


13 posted on 05/26/2010 4:06:37 PM PDT by iowamark
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Or if there is no work needed, then they should dig holes in the ground and fill it up again later

The US tried stuff like that during the Depression, didn't work out. You see digging holes and filling it back up again is nothing like a productive job.

14 posted on 05/26/2010 4:07:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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bump


15 posted on 05/26/2010 4:08:24 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Niuhuru

Years ago, after so-called welfare reform was implemented, our local supermarket hired several former welfare recipients. A few were ok, but there was one who did nothing but complain and loudly so everyone including management could hear. She clearly was unhappy that now she had to actually work for a living.

I noticed after a few months that most of those former welfare recipients were gone. Shortly thereafter, the store took out about half the old style checkout counters and replaced them with automated self-serve machines. I suppose those machine were a lot more cost effective than paying whining checkout people.


16 posted on 05/26/2010 4:09:26 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Niuhuru

I was talking about welfare, not people with genuine disability.

Although I don’t think those should be completely free either, but obviously what the individuals should be expected to do to get those benefits differ than people on welfare.


17 posted on 05/26/2010 4:10:16 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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“I’ve always maintained that everyone on welfare should have to work for the government in order to receive the benefits.”

AW come on now, don’t we have enough problems with the government without adding to it?


18 posted on 05/26/2010 4:12:25 PM PDT by Bluebeard16
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To: avacado

£15,000 is $21,600 for those who don’t know the conversion rate.


19 posted on 05/26/2010 4:13:15 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: GeronL

That’s the idea, the work is miserable and people look for the first opportunity out of it.

I’m not saying this will improve the economy, this is strictly about getting rid of the welfare lifestyle.


20 posted on 05/26/2010 4:13:30 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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