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Palin and Mondale
American Conservative ^ | 2010-07-08 | Daniel Larison

Posted on 07/08/2010 3:37:04 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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1 posted on 07/08/2010 3:37:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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bullsh!t. The Democrat party lurches left and loses every time. They win when they run as moderates. The right is is the opposite. The GOP wins when they run as conservatives and get trounced when they run as Dem-lite.


2 posted on 07/08/2010 3:39:28 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: rabscuttle385
That space is already being filled by Romney, who also enjoys the status of default frontrunner.


3 posted on 07/08/2010 3:42:41 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

LOL. I’ll ignore dissecting this garbage and just go to the next thread. You have an agenda against Governor Palin, that’s all.


4 posted on 07/08/2010 3:42:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romneybot cr@p, pure and simple.


5 posted on 07/08/2010 3:43:05 PM PDT by piytar (Re: AlGore's latest - Karl Rove, you magnificent #######!)
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To: rabscuttle385

There’s also the other big reason: a former VP (often previously a major rival in a presidential nomination battle) is the default choice, especially when the other nominees aren’t all that great. Would Bush Sr. have won a reelection over a Mondale?


6 posted on 07/08/2010 3:43:20 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: rabscuttle385

Total crap.

20% of US voters are Liberals, 40% say they are Conservatives. It’s simple math. Start by getting the 40% fired up and then pull enough of the independents to win.


7 posted on 07/08/2010 3:43:34 PM PDT by bigbob
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... In nominating her, Republicans would be saying to the country, “We have learned nothing these last four years. We have changed nothing.” ...

Pure Poppycock from a Rommniebot!

There is not default runner. The only thing that Mitt has filled is empty air with more empty air.


8 posted on 07/08/2010 3:44:38 PM PDT by J Edgar
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Palin and Mondale are alike in that they represent the face of the party as it was when it was defeated, but they are quite different in their sources of support.

Nope. McCain - THE TOP OF THE TICKET - lost the election.

Palin's politics are to McCain's politics like chocolate is to mud. Palin was no, nor is not a moderate sell-out to liberal positions.

9 posted on 07/08/2010 3:45:49 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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GOP will nominate T-Paw or Mittrino ...like Charlie Brown and the RNC are Lucy...'moderates' fall for it every time.


10 posted on 07/08/2010 3:46:45 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (drain the swamp! ( then napalm it and pave it over ))
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... In nominating her, Republicans would be saying to the country, “We have learned nothing these last four years. We have changed nothing.” ...

Pure Poppycock from a Rommniebot!

There is no default runner. Palin did lose, Juan did, by saying things like “I don’t understand the economy” or something equally stupid whenever he surge in the polls.
The only thing that Mitt has filled is empty air with more empty air.


11 posted on 07/08/2010 3:46:52 PM PDT by J Edgar
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You'd be surprised how accurate his description of the Republican Establishment is. Romney is the face of Bushism.

Where he goes wrong is his assumption that Palin won't challenge on policy ideas. That's the assumption everyone makes about Palin, and I suspect that that's where she will surprise everyone.

Best,

Chris

12 posted on 07/08/2010 3:47:30 PM PDT by section9
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I think the difference between Palin and Mondale is immense.

Sarah Palin is no Walter Mondale. She is our Barack Obama.

By that I mean, the troops, the base, the grassroots, whatever you call them, identify with her on a deep symbolic and emotional level. They will never turn from her (if she is a candidate), and they will turn on and attack any "normal" candidate.

This intensity is very unusual in Presidential politics, and it may very well be enough to get her elected (I presume, if she wants the nomination, she will get it).

There are two questions about Our Lady of Wasilla that I don't know the answers to: First, can she overcome the enormous and unprecedented media/Hollywood/university attack machine, and, second, if she is elected, what then?

The Leftist core behind Obama was very confident they'd be getting the wrecking ball that Obama has become.

I do get a tingle up my leg every time Sarah speaks, but I don't yet have the security that her Administration will have as many radical patriots as Obama's has communist traitors.

We shall see.

13 posted on 07/08/2010 3:49:27 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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“A poll of GOP insiders suggests that ex-AK Gov. Sarah Palin (R) has little support among the party’s professional class — and maybe that’s just how she wants it.

In a survey of 109 party leaders, political professionals and pundits, Palin finished 5th on the list of candidates most likely to win the party’s ‘12 WH nomination. Ex-MA Gov. Mitt Romney (R) was the overwhelming choice of the [GOP insiders]

Voters were asked to rank 5 candidates in the order of likeliness to capture the GOP nod. The results:

Likely To Win WH’12 Nomination (First place votes)

Ex-MA Gov. Mitt Romney 81 points (62%)
MN Gov. Tim Pawlenty 46 (9%)
Sen. John Thune 38 (12%)
MS Gov. Haley Barbour 28 (6%)
IN Gov. Mitch Daniels 25
Ex-AK Gov. Sarah Palin 25
Rounding out the top 10: Ex-House Speaker Newt Gingrich, ex-AR Gov. Mike Huckabee, ex-FL Gov. Jeb Bush, LA Gov. Bobby Jindal. Candidates other than Romney, Pawlenty, Thune and Barbour split the remaining 11% of first-place votes.

Meanwhile, Dem insiders too think Romney is the most likely candidate to run against Pres. Obama next year. The results, from interviews with 111 Dem insiders:

Likely To Win WH’12 Nomination

Romney 29%
Thune 15
Pawlenty 13
Daniels 11
Gingrich 6”


14 posted on 07/08/2010 3:50:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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You've posted a lot of dumb articles, but few as idiotic as this piece.

How's the Ron Paul for president bandwagon going? More than 1% yet?

15 posted on 07/08/2010 3:51:18 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Total BS.

McCain is is the face of moderate Republicans. He ran away from the conservatives. His record of compromise with the liberals running the Senate is why he was so unpopular.

Palin is probably unpopular with the country-club Republicans in Washington. She resonates with the working man around the country.

The Democrats problem (and this is where this guy got his history wrong) was that they committed to Mondale way too early. By late 1983, the economy was quickly turning around. All then indicators were pointing up by late 83.

By the time the primaries were held in the spring of 84, the economy was roaring back. It was OBVIOUS that Reagan’s policies were working. The Dems were committed to Big GOvernment and as Reagan so aptly put it, “Government IS the problem.”


16 posted on 07/08/2010 3:51:34 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yep.....moving on here too...next.


17 posted on 07/08/2010 3:51:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: ilgipper

That helps to explain why someone to the left of Carter is now our president. As for Palin, maybe can win some more people over. I think the way to do it is cultivate the image of a serious candidate, someone who could mop the floor in any debate with GOP and dem candidates... and not by batting her eyelashes or (as her old mentor McCain often does) by conceding practically everything to the opposing side. You can argue all you want about everything she’s done up to now, but it isn’t enough to make her president.


18 posted on 07/08/2010 3:53:15 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Bryan24
McCain is is the face of moderate Republicans. He ran away from the conservatives. His record of compromise with the liberals running the Senate is why he was so unpopular.

Palin is probably unpopular with the country-club Republicans in Washington. She resonates with the working man around the country.

QFT.


19 posted on 07/08/2010 3:54:15 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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I don’t know if Palin will be the nominee in 2012 or not. But I’m certain that Romney won’t be.


20 posted on 07/08/2010 3:55:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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