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Palin and Mondale
American Conservative ^ | 2010-07-08 | Daniel Larison

Posted on 07/08/2010 3:37:04 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: Figment

Yeah she will.


41 posted on 07/08/2010 4:47:10 PM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: Figment
Au contraire.

Palin is America's last, best hope.

Without her, the choices become....the abyss....or war.

Neither choice excites me.

CA....

42 posted on 07/08/2010 4:53:22 PM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: Jim Noble
The comparison to Obama is more accurate. Both greatly inspire and enthuse certain constituencies within their parties with a zeal seldom seen in politics. Both have a cult of celebrity following. Their followers see in them what they want to see.

Both are inexperienced to an absurd degree.

43 posted on 07/08/2010 4:57:27 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: rabscuttle385

Good points but his article is way off base. The dems didn’t lose in 1984 because they picked Mondale. Any dem would have lost just as handily. Just as the GOP didn’t lose in 2008 because of McCain or Palin, any Republican would have lost once the economy and the markets collapsed in September.

If the economy recovers by 2012 and Obama’s #s are near where Reagan’s were in 1984 he’ll win easily just like Reagan did, no matter who runs against him. Palin would lose in that scenario, as would anyone else. But, if his numbers remain low and the economy stagnates, unemployment remains high(above 8%), Afghanistan doesn’t improve, he’ll be very vulnerable. Popular and succesful incumbents don’t lose. Period. Unpopular and failed ones do.

For example, unemployment went from 10.1 in June of 83 to 7.2 in June of 84. If it drops 3 pts between June of 2011 and June of 2012 the GOP will have no shot, just as the dems had no shot in 84.

Palin would actually have an edge because she’d be seen and rightly so as someone who was against Obama from the start and warned people of what would happen. VOters who realize they made the wrong choice in Obama will have antural place to turn to correc their mistake.

The big difference between the two of them though is that unlike Palin, Mondale actually served as VP for a reviled and depsised administration. He was actually responsible for policies. He was actually part of an administration that was turned out of office in a 489-49 EV landslide, 44 states to 6. The better analogy to Mondale would be if the GOP nominated Cheney in 2012. Or the CA Dems renominating Jerry Brown.

Palin was already part of a ticket that got 46% and won 22 states, compared to the 41% and 6 states that Carter/Mondale lost by in 1980. She starts from a much better position than Mondale did. Plus, against a failed Obama andminisration(the only chance the GOP has)

Palin had nothing to do with the Bush administration. Wasn’t part of it in any way. Nothing to do with the economy, the Iraq War, anything. I don’t think most voters will link her to the Bush/Cheney Administration. It was very easy(for obvious reasons) for voters to link Mondale to the Carter/Mondale Administration. He was the #2 man in it!

Moreso if she is the nominee. That will mean she’ll have campaigned for over a year on her own platform and policies. Have participated in numerous debates, events, etc... Have picked her own VP. I don’t see how a Palin/Romney ticket or a Palin/Barbour ticket or a Palin/whoever ticket will be seen as Bush redux.

Especially running against a failed Obama administration. Mondale ran against a hugely succesful Reagan administration.

The far better analogy for Kornacki to use would be with Gerald Ford. He lost to Carter in 76, yet by 1980 every poll showed him beating Carter easily. He’d have won in 80 if he was the nominee instead of Reagan. Or Nixon in 68. Or Rudy Giuliani in NYC in 1993. He lost to David Dinkins in 1989. By 1993 voters had had enough of Dinkins and Rudy won because they realized they should have picked him in 89 and he was the right choice.. And the comparison between Obama and Dinkins is plain for anyone to see.


44 posted on 07/08/2010 5:00:57 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: rabscuttle385

Boy, I can’t cease to be amazed at how freightened of Palin they are. There is a massive propaganda push to try and keep her from becoming a candidate. All that because she is a true conservative, and that scares the pants off them. Well guess what! Like the Democrat tactic of doing anything to keep getting their name mentioned in the media, the forces opposed to Palin are giving her free campaign coverage. I think she’s going to nail it.


45 posted on 07/08/2010 5:02:02 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: rabscuttle385
Daniel Larison donated $2,500 to Ron Paul in the 2008 election cycle, hence rabscuttle’s interest in him.

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Larison&fname=Daniel

46 posted on 07/08/2010 5:11:36 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

:) LOL.


47 posted on 07/08/2010 5:53:25 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Figment
Palin won’t run in 2012

Obama won't run in 2012. I smell an LBJ exit.

48 posted on 07/08/2010 5:55:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (We couldn't keep the commandments when there was only ONE!)
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To: bwc2221; Al B.; Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; SoCalPol; Lakeshark; Victoria Delsoul; ...
Daniel Larison donated $2,500 to Ron Paul in the 2008 election cycle, hence rabscuttle’s interest in him. LINK to source

Thanks!

Daniel Larison FYI PING = PAULTARD - lolololololol

49 posted on 07/08/2010 6:08:52 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: rlmorel

ROTFLOL.


50 posted on 07/08/2010 6:09:52 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

Well well well. What a surprise.


51 posted on 07/08/2010 6:14:03 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: Yossarian

Agreed. I always get a kick out of it when folks seem to forget that it was McCain that was running for President. The comparison of McCain to Mondale would make more sense in light of having an established organization, long political ties, etc.


52 posted on 07/08/2010 6:17:13 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: Al B.

I know I can count on you to file the information for sakekeeping. We can anticipate more of the same from the PAULTARD writer.

Why do those people hate and fear strong, smart women and the military?


53 posted on 07/08/2010 6:18:18 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx

Sorry, I ain’t going there...LOL.


54 posted on 07/08/2010 6:30:13 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: rabscuttle385

Boy, liberals LOVE them some Romney. Just like they LOVED them some President McCain.


55 posted on 07/08/2010 6:33:37 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Dude, Romney? Get off the pipe.


56 posted on 07/08/2010 6:39:51 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (November, here we come!)
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To: Al B.

Hey how about a bear in the woods. :)


57 posted on 07/08/2010 6:46:26 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: bwc2221

“Daniel Larison donated $2,500 to Ron Paul in the 2008 election cycle, hence rabscuttle’s interest in him.”

Well, that explains his cluelessness.


58 posted on 07/08/2010 7:08:11 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: onyx; bwc2221; rabscuttle385
Oh that's rich. The thread poster won't be back to defend his guy, nor his thread, and has the nerve to constantly call others a RINO.

"Rabadash the Ridiculous".

59 posted on 07/08/2010 7:20:19 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Silence is golden.


60 posted on 07/08/2010 7:32:19 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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