Posted on 08/10/2010 10:56:17 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
Christianity doesn’t make QUITE the same demands of Christians as Islam does of its adherents. Like Christ never told his followers to make war on the unbelievers, or kill people who try to convert them, or kill people who are apostates.
Shawn Green’s choice to observe Yom Kippur was a one day thing. Muslim fasting for Ramadan is 30 days in a row, smack dab in the middle of the heat of summer training and/or pre-season. So there is a difference.
That aside, Abdullah could probably get an exemption from the fast if he wanted to. One of the leading Islamic theological institutions, Al-Azhar in Egypt, has allowed that an athlete may break the fast if fasting affects performance. This ruling was made with regard to soccer players in Germany, but I can’t see where the player’s sport would affect the underlying rationale for the ruling.
Interestingly, Abdullah is recruiting others on the team to the fast, apparently with the blessing of the team’s upper office. (This is not his first year fasting, and yes, it did negatively affect his performance last year, which is why trainers and nutritionists are working with him on it this year.) One of the trainers has agreed to try fasting with him...although the effects would be quite a bit less for a non-athlete standing on the sidelines.
Seriously, I wouldn't want him blocking or running patterns for me if I were the team Captain! If you are not willing to give 100% for the Team forget it. Next thing you know he'll be crying for foot washing troughs and prayer mats in his private locker room! I have a feeling he'll be getting a few harder hits during practice if you know what I mean. These guys are animals out there and don't appreciate half @ssed teammates.
Classy. Nothing brightens the day quite like a low class comment from an obviously low class person. Carry on.
Great post. I should try fasting, I can lose some weight.
I did not say you couldn’t set a day apart for God, or not eat foods, I said there is no law saying Do not work on Sunday to keep it holy.
Some day, EVERY day will be a Sabbath and ALL our work will not be work, interesting, does our work represent our sin? Adam named the animals before the fall, and I know we will be doing things, so is the reason for the Sabbath to keep us from doing anything because we screw up everything??? Sorry, that’s how my brain works.
I know God sees all of our sacrifices, whatever they are. The most astounding to me was when David was given the water from the gate of Bethlehem by the three mighty men, and he poured it on the ground. Our guys who have been in the desert would appreciate it, too.
Are you meeting Mr. Green tonight? Are you meeting with Jamaal? Are they frequent visitors to this site? Oh, I didn’t think so. So what’s your problem?
I am free in Christ to make fun of these fools. I will not be put into bondage by some others that think I should “respect” other so-called religions. If you don’t like that skip my post.
Hey, don’t you love how in Galatians, Paul by revelation, said about the religious Jews who were coming behind Paul and trying to circumcise the new believers, which like all the law was done away with in Christ. Galatians 5:11,12- Paul says I wish they would cut off their own dick!
How’s that for you? Religion, like government, is the problem. Christianity is not a religion, it is what God did for the world through Jesus Christ - He is The Way, the One and Only Way. Lighten up Bro.
There are non-believers on this site. You may be the only reflection of Christ they ever see.
I don’t know if any have read your words and go “See, Christians may talk about loving their enemies, but that’s how they really feel.”
I’m sure God knows, though, and he will have a one-on-one conference with you one day and reveal if your words and behavior kept someone’s heart closed to the Gospel.
Heaven and hell are not laughing matters, so forgive me if I don’t lighten up when a fellow believer thinks it’s funny to mock those going to eternal damnation.
My apologies. It was rude, and I’m sorry.
“This nation is about 80% Christian...”
I doubt it.
“In the US should be able to choose freely to believe or reject the beliefs of any religion at any time without the threat of death, the withholding of rights, or without being subject to any economic penalty for leaving that religion.”
You already have that right.
To do as you suggest puts a Christian spin on the constitution - and that’s equally as bad.
Yeah, and another thing:
who are we to presume that God started on Monday and rested on Sunday? Didn’t God start on day one and rest on the seventh? What if he started on a Tuesday? Wouldn’t the day of rest then be a Monday?
I’m sure he’s been around long enough to know that a football is made of cow.
Ahh, TRADITION!
To put a test on dogma that evaluates whether it calls for the conversion of unbelievers by pain of death or economic hardship in absence of voluntary acceptance slants the US toward Christianity is your first unsubstantiated assertion.
How would it do that?
Let's say your right, and I may be too slow to see why you're right.
The constitution already had a Christian, if not definitely Deist, on it in the first place. How would slanting a country founded by Christians and other Deists back toward Deism somehow worse than allowing the country to accept as normative infanticide, sodomy, and families in which the parentage is by the committee of the “present” or “available”, and not by what has been fundamentally established for the human race by nature itself?
I think the second question is probably more debatable than the first, since the first assertion has little if no basis in the first place.
I, however, will indulge your attempts. I'm all ears.
You worry about your butt, and I’ll worry about mine.
Deal! See you at the Beam, I’ll be the one in front of you.
I don't want any tests about religion. I don't want any decisions made on my behalf because of religion. I couldn't tell you if it's Deist, Theist, or Mama-meist; those words are too “ist” for me, but I can tell you that what you propose feels “wrong” to me. I have my own religious beliefs, and others have theirs. I'm pretty tolerant of theirs and all of the folks that I know personally who have religious beliefs seem to be pretty tolerant of mine. For me to now put a test on all of the folks that I know personally who have religious beliefs to determine if their beliefs fit into the parameters of what I think a religious belief ought to be just isn't right for me. I don't want any part of that judgment. It's not how I live my life.
I understand and agree that there are extremists in all religions and based on the law of the land they should be punished appropriately. I'm not really talking about those folks because their actions are clearly criminal. And I don't think you're talking about those folks either, because I think you're talking about an entire religion that particular extremist groups claim to represent. An entire religion.
As a taxpayer I shouldn't have to judge the religious beliefs of another fellow taxpayer when determining who has to pay their fair share of taxes. From my perspective as a tax-paying-law-abiding citizen, I don't want to give any religion a break. In my eyes religions should be treated like businesses and taxed accordingly. It is generated income after all.
That's how I feel.
“I said there is no law saying Do not work on Sunday to keep it holy.”
Again, your reading of the Scripture is not normative, as the Scripture itself makes plain in the previously cited passage. Perhaps the Author has given others equally committed to following His Way a path that you do not recognize nor choose to follow. For them, their path is law, as is yours for you. Follow yours, and leave them to follow theirs.
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