Posted on 08/23/2010 8:01:18 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
The real issue behind the controversy that has erupted over plans to build a 15-story cultural center, mosque and madrassa a few yards from Ground Zero is not only about the mysterious funding behind the Cordoba Center initiative, or whether or not its founders and backers have malign intentions. It is primarily about understanding how Muslims across the world, in particular Islamists, would view the conversion of the site of the greatest Muslim attack on U.S. soil into a Muslim house of worship. Given the long history of mosque-building following Muslim military victories, the building of the Cordoba House on Ground Zero will be seen in the same light as the Muslim conquests of Mecca, Jerusalem, and Constantinople. Whereas Americans hope that the attacks on New York City and Washington are seen as the clarion's call for aggressive American action to counter Islamist ideology, the construction of the Ground Zero Mosque will be seen by the same Islamists as its first step towards the decline of America.
Bin Laden and his Islamists would love nothing better to plant the flag of Islam in the cultural capital of the West. This would not be read in the Muslim world as a sign of the West's tolerance, but of its weakness. In its long history of conquest, Islam has habitually converted the scared shrines of its enemies into mosques and madrasas. A cursory look at the world's most famous mosques lays bare the fact that many were former houses of worships of defeated enemies.
Islam's most sacred site, al-Kaaba, in Mecca was a pagan shrine that predated Islam by hundreds of years. Mohammed himself, after his army's conquest of Mecca in 630, destroyed hundreds of idols, proclaiming the truth of his new religion, and, since, it has become the hub of the annual Muslim pilgrimage, hajj, and a core pillar of Islam. Following the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem, the Ummayad Caliphate proceeded to build the Dome of the Rock, the Masjid Qubat al-Sakhra, on top of the Jewish Temple Mount in 689. Inscribed on the inner walls of the shrine are clear warnings to Christianity, professing Islamic supremacy. Sprawled on the inner octagonal arcade, flowing counterclockwise, the dedication warns Christians and Jews to "not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning God save the truth" and threatens the Christian Trinity by insisting that "The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a Messenger of God, and His Word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and say not 'Three' - Cease! (it is) better for you! - God is only One God."[1] Whoever believes that God had a son, "whoso disbelieveth the revelations of God (will find that) lo! God is swift at reckoning!"[2] Having defeated their Christian enemies, the Umayyads built a grand mosque on top of Judaism's most sacred site that contained a clear declaration of Muslim supremacy over their brother Abrahamic religions.
Similar conversions were ordered as the Muslim conquests expanded across Africa and Europe. The Grand Mosque of Damascus, also known as the Umayyad Mosque, was converted from a church dedicated to John the Baptist in 705. The world-renown Hagia Sophia in Istanbul was a thousand year-old Christian church before being transformed into a mosque following the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople in 1453. It was only converted into a museum in 1935 by ultra-secularist and Turkish founding father Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. Over the long history of Muslim territorial advance, thousands of mosques, from Spain to India, were built on sites of important religious or political value to their defeated foes.
Supporters of the project might argue that the actions of invading Muslim armies over a millennia ago are irrelevant to the issue at hand in lower Manhattan. However, it is impossible to separate the recent decline of such a trend with the parallel decline and territorial recession of Muslim lands in the second half of the second millennium. Moreover, recent territories that have returned to Muslim rule following decolonization have seen the return of the conversions of religious sites into mosques. Muammar Qaddafi, the ruler of Libya, converted 78 synagogues into mosques in the 1970s.[3] In 1975, the Great Synagogue of Oran was confiscated by the Algerian government and similarly transformed.
Proponents like to cite the namesake of the Cordoba House complex as evidence of its goal of tolerance and pluralism, referring to the relative tolerant attitude of Muslim Spain to its Jewish and Christian minorities. Those proponents, however, should recall that the Great Mosque, or Mezquita, of Cordoba was itself a Visigoth Church that was converted and rebuilt as a mosque following Muslim conquest in 784, lasting nearly 500 years before it was recaptured and converted back into a Catholic cathedral.
Both survivors and the families of the victims of the September 11 attacks, as well as most prideful New Yorkers, have strongly objected to what they see at best as an insensitive project to, at worst, a malicious broadside against those who suffered tremendously on that day and since.
It has even divided the organized Jewish community, pitting a vehemently supportive J Street against a nuancedly opposed Anti-Defamation League. The mosque, run by the Cordoba House, claims to be promoting the project not only for functional reasons, but also for civilizational ones. Its supporters say that its aim is to use the 9/11 tragedy and the location of the Ground Zero Mosque as a message of tolerance and compromise in America. By hoping that Americans would never buy into the "Us against Them" rhetoric espoused by Islamists, supporters are seeking to demonstrate the superiority of Western culture and liberalism. The fact that this is even a debate in America demonstrates American tolerance; it is illegal to build a church or synagogue anywhere in Saudi Arabia.
American government officials have been divided over the plan, with Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Congressman Jerrold Nadler, Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer, Governor Deval Patrick, and, most recently, President Obama himself in support and many local and national politicians, including Senators John McCain, Joseph Lieberman, and Olympia Snowe, Congressman Peter King, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, and former Governors Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin, in opposition.
But the symbolism could not be clearer: If the Cordoba's House supporters seek to emulate the tolerance of al-Andalus, the Arabic term for Muslim Spain, they are unwittingly declaring their possible acceptance of Muslim rule.
[1] http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/DoTR.html
[2] http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/DoTR.html
[3] http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=5&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=623&PID=0&IID=1901&TTL=The_Final_Exodus_of_the_Libyan_Jews_in_1967
Osambo knows this; that’s why he’s pushing for the ‘Hamasque’. Expect a Star & Crescent over the White House & at Mt. Rushmore.
Osambo knows this; that’s why he’s pushing for the ‘Hamasque’. Expect a Star & Crescent over the White House & at Mt. Rushmore.
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I don't think anyone that was there would classify the area as anything other than "Ground Zero". The Religion of Hates' (ROH©) talking points are to make believe only the footprint of WTC deserves special status. (Although I'd bet they would love to build a mosque there too)
Andrew C. McCarthy's "The Grand Jihad" is a must read. by the way, the Imam's wife Daisy Khan, said on ABC's "This Week with Christiane Amanpour." Khan said she believed the project will ultimately be built on the original site.
When asked if she thought America had become "Islamophobic," Khan said it's beyond that, and quote, "it's hate of Muslims," adding "And we are deeply concerned." Meanwhile, New York Governor David Paterson remains hopeful that he can broker a deal to move the planned project away from the World Trade Center site.
Ms. Khan is deeply concerned?
Nine years of inactivity on the World Trade Center site is proof that the Islamists won the Battle of New York, whereas they lost the Battle of the Pentagon. Building this “cultural center” is simply icing on the cake. If the nit-wits in NY and DC had taken quick action to replace the WTC, this whole issue would never have gotten traction in the first place.
The Bush administration got sidetracked by “nation building” in Iraq, and no one in DC ever took 5th column efforts seriously (either public attacks such as building the madrassa in Potomac, MD, or stealth Mexican border incursions by those the Border Patrol calls “Other Than Mexican”. This war marks the second time since the War of 1812 that the U.S. has been invaded (if one ignores the constant stream of new Democrat voters coming over our southern border).
It feels like my Barney Rubble brakes are wearing out quickly and the national “car” is approaching a cliff.
“Building Mosques on Sacred Sites of Defeated Enemies a Symbol of Conquest”
Ya think???!!!!
“Islam’s most sacred site, al-Kaaba, in Mecca was a pagan shrine that predated Islam by hundreds of years. Mohammed himself, after his army’s conquest of Mecca in 630, destroyed hundreds of idols, proclaiming the truth of his new religion, and, since, it has become the hub of the annual Muslim pilgrimage, hajj, and a core pillar of Islam.”
The Mohammedans destroy other religions because they worship idols. What do the Mohammedans do? They get a rock and worship it! What can you expect from a goat-humping pedophile.
BTW, this AM on FNF, Doucey claimed that the Mohammedans are already in the building they want to use. Health Department?
for the UNknowing...
This is not a multicultural issue....its far greater
Here in this issue, we get to see the power of Sharia. Cash coming in from Iran, Saudiland etc etc even Pakistan.
When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.
Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, a economic system (which includes funding new mosque construction), its judicial...all wrapped up in the word sharia. This is inclusive of its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.
This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
Islam is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace. Globally.
When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.
The sooner America learns this , the better.
Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.
For all interested...Wanna learn more?
On Sharia
http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392
this,
Three things about Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded
and a little Bill Whittle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_iDPRud_c
Lets keep America, America!
Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.
The other nations suffer the same problems....
A truth that the left is twisting themselves in knots to keep the public from finding out.
In the meantime:
Political Correctness and pandering - The idea that we have to allow foreigners and foreign money free movement and near unrestricted activity in our nation; that any dissent BUT ONLY THAT WHICH COMES FROM THE PERSEPCTIVE OF A Judea Christan, US exceptional, traditional family or US historical view, are deemed as insensitive, ignorant and wrong; the self censorship and at times even cuddling up of the arts and media to despots, radical/terrorist groups........
Adherence to some philosophical/ideological dogma - The idea of “diversity” vs. a “melting pot,” the concepts of inclusiveness and equality vs. fairness, the idea that somehow it's unconstitutional or ethically wrong to profile even though that's the basis of how any law enforcement or intelligence largely work.
Some idea of what it means to be civilized - The idea that we apply a higher standard of care for terrorists than is necessary by international law, that these folks are not US citizens yet afforded US Constitutional rights nor are they enemy combatants yet many think they fall under the Geneva Convention; that we go after our own interrogators and restrict the use of those of the CIA; that we restrict the use of certain types of bunker busters, have tight rules of engagement, that we think everything requires the approval of some world community while half of them are bottom feeding and making money off these rouge states and groups etc...........
We will civilize ourselves out of existence. But we'll feel really good about ourselves.
The Ground Zero mosque is territorial marking, pure and simple. We must not allow the Moslem dog to pee upon ground hallowed by the dust of martyrs.
“It has even divided the organized Jewish community, pitting a vehemently supportive J Street...”
...stupid, stupid, American Jewry...they’ll still be debating ‘constitutional rights’ while the Muslims herd them into the cattle cars.
Well, as long as whatever group is acting against the gentiles, liberal Jews will support them, up until that “cattlecar” moment.
It truly is a symbol of conquest by the Muslims who should NOT be able to obtain an exemption of taxes for their so-called “Religion” from the IRS due the extremely Political nature of their so-called “Religion”.
Islam is a Militant Totalitarian Political system disguised as a Religion. It isn’t a form of Religion that should be recognized by our system as freedom to worship as it is a competing form of political rule to our own government of self rule as guaranteed by our Constitution. Every bit as much a competing form of government as is Marxism.
Islam should be handled with loaded weapons, not rhetoric. There is no negotiating with liars. Islamists, and Marxists have proven that point.
And they scream bloody murder about the word “crusade”.
Sooo, the last Muslim conquest was in 1453?
Wonder where they got the cash to build this a few miles from my house?? It’s huge!
http://www.isak.org/
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