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Glenn Beck "Restoring Honor" Rally Crowd Estimate Explained (CBS Defends 87,000 Estimate)
CBS News Political Hotsheet Blog ^ | August 31, 2010 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 09/01/2010 10:30:52 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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1 posted on 09/01/2010 10:30:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Has cBS ever felt the need to defend their crowd estimates before?


2 posted on 09/01/2010 10:34:14 AM PDT by rhombus
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Fake but accurate.


3 posted on 09/01/2010 10:34:55 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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This will only have any validity if they make direct comparisons to the Inauguration aerials.


4 posted on 09/01/2010 10:35:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Yo-Yo

What TIME were these pictures taken????


5 posted on 09/01/2010 10:36:55 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Albion Wilde

What is CBS???


6 posted on 09/01/2010 10:36:57 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Yo-Yo

The state-run propaganda ministry can say whatever they want but there won’t be able to lie on November 2.


7 posted on 09/01/2010 10:37:00 AM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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Not only were there thousands more than this pitiful TV station reported, after it was over, there was no trash on the ground as there has been from other ‘rally’s’ for the left. Conservatives are also very ‘green’ in their behavior........


8 posted on 09/01/2010 10:38:01 AM PDT by yoe ("N" is for NO for Progressives in government.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Soon cbs will only have a market consisting of persons in old folks homes wondering why Walter is wearing a wig.


9 posted on 09/01/2010 10:38:22 AM PDT by updatedscreenname
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To: Yo-Yo
87000...thats why the Metro was overloaded to the point that it opened up the turnstyles? There were over 125000 viewing on the WWW alone. More c BS for sure. In any event the ones that were there showed what true Americans are all about.
10 posted on 09/01/2010 10:39:11 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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How do they explain Metro numbers of 500,000 plus. It set a record! Let me guess, they went to Sharpton’s hate rally.
11 posted on 09/01/2010 10:40:18 AM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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What TIME were these pictures taken????

Sorry, I missed a chunk of article when I cut and pasted. The missing paragraphs:

"We took a lot of shots under the trees and higher up by just changing the balloon altitude," he said. "So what might have been a negative with an airplane and certainly a negative with a satellite was a very strong position with a balloon."

Though there was restricted airspace on the south side of the reflecting pool, airspace was not restricted where the crowd was gathered, allowing the company to position the balloon in "the very center of the crowd - dead in the middle of it," Westergard said.

The photos were taken at noon, which Beck's representatives suggested would be the peak of the event, which ran from 10 AM to slightly after 1 PM. Taking the pictures then meant counting both those who were late to the event because of subway or traffic delays and those who left early to avoid the crowds afterward.

The company generated its own estimate and asked Doig to separately one on his own. Though Doig and AirPhotosLive.com employ slightly different methodologies, both use a method that involves laying grids over the high-resolution images and counting the density per unit of each grid cell. Westergard provided the image below to help show how the estimates are made. It's of a Tea Party Express event on April 15th that the company calculated attracted 4,436 people.


12 posted on 09/01/2010 10:41:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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What TIME were these pictures taken????

Bingo! The only time I saw those balloons up in the air was very early in the day, between 10:30-11:00AM. At that point in time there were still people streaming into the areas by the thousands. As a matter of fact, tens of thousands of people were still standing in line at the Metro stations all around the city!

13 posted on 09/01/2010 10:43:43 AM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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You are right on targt with your comment. The CBS estimate means nothing!!! The crowd face and impact mean everything!!!


14 posted on 09/01/2010 10:45:14 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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"partnering with Professor Stephen Doig "

... famous for his 'statistical analysis' for the Miami Herald that concluded Gore won the Florida vote.

15 posted on 09/01/2010 10:46:28 AM PDT by mrsmith
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I was at the Beach Boys concert on the Mall on July 4th 1982 (best time of my life!). They estimated the crowd at half a million. From my observation and pictures I saw later, that was less than what the crowd size was last Saturday.

Just sayin’.


16 posted on 09/01/2010 10:47:08 AM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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An oldie from the Dan Rather National Guard days...


17 posted on 09/01/2010 10:49:26 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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That estimate of 87,000 was likely close for the photo shown, but where ever and when ever that photo was taken it it was not the crowd seen in the other pictures. I’m surprised that CBS didn’t do what Reuters has done..Photoshop the image with patches of grass crudely inserted to cover the crowd.


18 posted on 09/01/2010 10:52:22 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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It was the only scientific estimate made of the number of people at the rally.

In other words, SeeBS relied on a SWAG* rather than a WAG*


* SWAG = Scientific Wild Assed Guess
* WAG = ... You Freepers can figure it out

19 posted on 09/01/2010 10:52:28 AM PDT by Zakeet (Mark Steyn: We're too broke to be this stupid)
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The numbers weren't difficult to estimate during Obama's inauguration, why are they so difficult to estimate during Glenn Beck's rally?

20 posted on 09/01/2010 10:53:06 AM PDT by SouthDixie (The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly and lie about your age.)
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