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Glenn Beck "Restoring Honor" Rally Crowd Estimate Explained (CBS Defends 87,000 Estimate)
CBS News Political Hotsheet Blog ^ | August 31, 2010 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 09/01/2010 10:30:52 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: Yo-Yo
(CBS Defends 87,000 Estimate)

The COMMUNIST broadcasting system is full of sh!t...they are a disgrace to their trade. No wonder why they are going broke. Sink you ba$tards!!

21 posted on 09/01/2010 10:54:24 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: zzeeman

There is the answer to the innaccurate count.


22 posted on 09/01/2010 10:55:36 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Yo-Yo

That first photo doesn’t bear any resemblance to pictures we have seen online. The Lincoln Memorial and Washington Monument and the Reflecting Pool aren’t even in that picture. This looks like a picture taken of an empty field somewhere - does anyone see any recognizable landmarks here? I sure don’t.


23 posted on 09/01/2010 10:59:26 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: The Great RJ
That estimate of 87,000 was likely close for the photo shown, but where ever and when ever that photo was taken it it was not the crowd seen in the other pictures.

Due to an error on my part a few paragraphs were left out of the cut and paste process, which are in post #12.

This sentence should have immediately preceed the first image, and it brings that image into context:

Westergard provided the image below to help show how the estimates are made. It's of a Tea Party Express event on April 15th that the company calculated attracted 4,436 people.


(Credit: AirPhotosLive.com)


24 posted on 09/01/2010 11:02:02 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

We just looked at the Google Satellite view. The picture they show is a little piece of the Mall North East of the Washington Monument. Look for the triangular walkway and the stand of trees.

They weren’t even fracking looking at the Lincoln Memorial!

Their pic shows something like a bandstand or stage with the crowd gathered around. It wasn’t even taken the same day! I’ve never seen such an outrageous lie in the media.


25 posted on 09/01/2010 11:06:17 AM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Yo-Yo

The problem with taking big pictures of the entire area and using them to say the crowd was huge is that there are a lot of people on the mall every saturday.

How do you know that the people standing several blocks from the main event, over by the trees on the left and right of the reflecting pool, are there for the actual event?

Of course, a lot of people might well stand in the shade, but wouldn’t you still expect the entire area around the stage to get filled up with people?

Estimating crowds, and determining who was there for what, is really beyond the capability of a few photographs. You need a more pro-active counting mechanism.

For example, set up a phone counter like american idol that includes caller id exclusion, and tell the crowd to call at several times during the event. Everybody with a phone calls in at least once, and you get a count of everybody who has a cell phone at least.

Then you ask those without cell phones to raise their hands, and you take a picture. Later, you can estimate the percentage who raised their hands, and use it to adjust your numbers.

But mostly, people don’t want an actual count of people at an event. They want to be able to say “500,000”, or “1,000,000”, without regard to the actual numbers.


26 posted on 09/01/2010 11:19:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I tried to look at the additional photos. They are being hosted at a Microsoft Photo site. Only Microsoft could manage to have a simple photo site that is impossible for users to access because of “older versions” of software. They are stupid jpegs, any program can view them, but the site is tied to MS Silverlight, which apparently being a Microsoft product is incompatable with itself, requiring the “latest version” to accomplish a simple task.

Since I don’t have administrative access to put new crappy MS products on my computer, I can’t look at simple pictures? This is why I hate Microsoft. They must work hard at making sure you have to keep getting their latest software.


27 posted on 09/01/2010 11:24:07 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I tried to look at the additional photos. They are being hosted at a Microsoft Photo site. Only Microsoft could manage to have a simple photo site that is impossible for users to access because of “older versions” of software.

I guess I have a new enough version of Silverlight on my computer, so I didn't know about it being needed.

Too bad you can't see it, because it is a very neat scrollable composite of several images overlaid on each other to make up a mosaic of the Mall that you can pan, tilt, and zoom through.

There is also a moasic slide show you can run. Still looks like a helluva lot more than 87,000 to me. I see crowds of 87,000 on campus during football Saturdays, and there's lots more people on that mall than at the stadium.

28 posted on 09/01/2010 11:35:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Hojczyk

*What is CBS???*

Stands for “See B.S.”


29 posted on 09/01/2010 12:09:43 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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