The ChiComs already have the capacity: China's Jin-class SSBN
Posted on 11/12/2010 8:54:09 PM PST by Korah
Long years ago I witnessed a missile launch from a sub off the coast of Cocoa Beach Florida. Most of us sitting on the beach when this thing rose out of the sea was heartstopping.
Until that missile rose up out of the sea many people didn’t realize there was a sub base right off the coast there.
Just remarking that it is possible a sub sent up that missile.
Isn’t Sweden a Muslim nation now?
“if that rot hasn’t infected our military and diminished its capacity”
9 11 caught the military by surprise.
Seems like the enemy will always be trying to test our weakness and blind spots.
They will try to hit us in ways we haven’t imagined.
I think it was that humble mayor of NY who said that...Mr Bloomberg. /s
+1
Australian submarines have been ‘sinking’ US warships in exercises since at least 2003, and we’re not the only ones. The USN is very, very good at what it does, but it’s not the only one - and even if you’re the best that doesn’t mean you always get 100%.
If somebody almost as good as you is having a really good day, at the same time, you’re having an ordinary one...
Totally reasonable thoughts, but have our enemies ever done anything reasonable?
lets assume for a moment some Moslems have a nuclear device, it won’t be very compact or efficient. Or even shielded.
Plus the absolute terror effect of vaporizing a HUGE American symbol of luxury and decadence is pure catnip to these groups.
Obviously and historically they are image bound, WTC of course comes to mind. What better way to make Americans cower in fear, to make them hide in their homes, to make them lash out and snarl against anything?
Buy destroying the things that they work for, luxury and escapism from reality or anything non Islamic.
Yes if I was an Islamic terrorist I would target a Carnival ship, or a Disney cruise ship, easier than attacking a theme park. Bigger the better.
Since modification of a sub is not a matter of slapping on a “Sub Modification Kit” available at the hardware store any such on this sub would have been noticed by the Navy. Multi-month jobs on big ships does not go hidden.
We can't and they can. We have less anti-sub capacity today than we did ten years ago. We now have the smallest Navy ship wise since The Great Depression. The only 100% sure fire verification of a submarine is having a visual sighting. Other than that? Pray for a lucky and accurate ping. We have advanced technology but no where near what you were told.
The ChiComs already have the capacity: China's Jin-class SSBN
The word is that a Chi-Com sub knocked out the cruise ship power systems with a new EMP weapon. A shot across Obamas bow. The missile was an American attack sub on a training mission taking a shot at the Chi-com. whether they got him ..unknown. If you check out the cruise ship incident it is very suspicious.
True and Russia as well has the range to reach us with their own nukes. But this will never happen, at least not by these countries or any other government which has defined borders for the country it controls.
America has at a minimum 20 nuclear subs on patrol throughout the world at all times, each one having about 24 nuclear missiles of the MIRV variety meaning about 10 nukes per missile with each war head independently targeted. Do the math, 20 x 24x 10 = 4800 nukes which can be directed at any target on the planet within a time frame of several hours to 3-4 days depending on the location of our submarine.
Tracing where a nuke comes from is relatively easy also and is dome by using technology which allows the ‘signature’ of the reactor from which the material for the bomb was generated.
My belief is the world has been already put on notice that if this nation is ever attacked with nukes, the offending nation or in fact which ever Nation we SAY is the offending nation will be reduced to a mountain of radioactive slag within hours. In the case of a terrorist attack the strongholds of the terrorists would be nuked and probably those Nations who are known to support them financially such as Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Too complicated. Just strap it to a Mexican and point him north.
The US (and Russia) are bound by the START-II treaty to restrict the number of ballistic missile submarines to 14. That’s why 4 of the Ohio class subs were recommissioned to for conventional strike and special operations.
About reducing any nation to slag, well of course. But we need to remember that it cuts both ways particularly with regard to nations such as China and Russia. If it weren’t so, North Korea and Iran wouldn’t be so cocky today.
When it boils down to it . . .
I don’t think it will be technological differences that will be the most devastating factors.
It will be who, what, when, how
these blokes [globalist puppet masters]:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/quotes/index.htm
decided to destroy their own original nests & homelands in the USA and elsewhere, in behalf of making overt establishment of their tyrannical global government easier.
. . .
by order of various dark lords . . .
and because human monitoring of all that info is not as . . . thorough, these days, as it might be?
Just guessing.
Not doubting what you say but given these subs are virtually if not completely impossible to track while on patrol, my guess is the number of subs out there is both unknown and more then the treaty may call for.
"About reducing any nation to slag, well of course. But we need to remember that it cuts both ways particularly with regard to nations such as China and Russia. If it weren’t so, North Korea and Iran wouldn’t be so cocky today"
Sure it cuts both ways but I am here assuming we will not be the first to use the nukes and that countries such as China, N Korea, Iran etc, knowing they face certain and total annihilation should they use them on us, will not do so. Of course a deterrent is useless without the will to use it and my guess is most of the bad guys believe we haven't the guts to pull the trigger on them. It may take the destruction of an enemy Nation State to convince the bad guys that this is the wrong country to F around with in this way.
About the Chinese, for one they don’t need to get anywhere near the continental US to launch a missile attack. They have nuclear-powered subs which have tested and are probably equipped with missiles with a range in excess of 5,000+ miles.
That’s true.
Unless they wanted us to see it.
But not to worry!!!
They have got half the blogosphere to call it an airliner which does it everyday, and woe to anyone who stands in their way!
Cackle.
Watch out, Korah, you might want to put yer flame retardant suit on ...
China is an economic threat. Not a military threat - for now. They don’t want our territory. They want to employ their masses to keep them from revolting.
We are playing into their hands by monetizing debt. Now they have leverage over us as we dilute their investments. Now we must fully finance our statism or be fully subservient to the Chinese and other foreign investors.
China doesn’t want our land. They want our support in employing their billions of citizens as they move to the east coast.
The unions in our country pay dues to bosses that don’t care about more jobs. They only care about the dues. And poor productivity. And wages that eliminate jobs. And rules that make it impossible to correct employees. Etc Etc.
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