Posted on 11/26/2010 7:29:40 AM PST by jhpigott
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CHRISTOPHER HILL: Well, I agree that we need a peace process.
Our problem right now is, we don’t have an interlocutor. It’s very unclear what’s going on in North Korea. Clearly, they have a succession crisis. They have an army that’s basically a law unto itself, that’s probably not taking civilian direction at this point. So, I think we have problems finding someone over there to talk to.
And, in the meantime, I think it is very important that we work very closely with the South Koreans. I don’t think we want to be in a position of somehow egging them on, nor do we want to be seen as — as pulling them back. I think what we want to be doing is in very, very serious consultations. And I think President Obama is doing just that with President Lee Myung-Bak.
CHRISTOPHER HILL: No, I’m referring to the South Koreans, because there are two ways you can go wrong with the South Koreans. One is to stand thousands of miles away and suggest there needs to be a much firmer response than they’re making. And the second is to somehow, you know, advocate that they do less.
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Yes, it appears that our diplomats want some kind of negotiation which will only enhance the Kims’ standing.
Hey Chris, do us all a favor, OK? Shut up and retire and right a book or somethong. On how you MISERABLY FAILED, based on preceding with an unworkable idea with an illogical endgame, all the while giving the North carte blanche time to build up their deterrent and reach near parity behind the scenes. There will be no more detested name in recent Korean-American diplomatic and geo-political history in my mind than CHRISTOPHER HILL when this all shakes out one day--maybe soon. He will truly join Neville Chamberlain as men who proclaimed they were for peace and worked for harmony, but in the long run ended up facilitating the most horrendous wars.
There is no such thing as a peace process when at least one side in an argument has no interest in peace. In order for there to be peace they either have to WANT peace or have to be FORCED into peace.
All the rest is smoke and mirrors.
the nimbobs awarded Zero a Nobel “just in case he might do something”. Maybe it’s time he did something
As a supplier of nuclear technology to second-order proxy states such as Burma, Venezuela, or Iran, NK has proved and will continue to be quite useful.
McCain don’t look so bad now, does he?
Don’t play chess often do you?
It isn’t NK the Chinese want.......
Again, you don’t play Chess much do you?
Wow. You aren’t able to think out of the box you think China would be in if they made a move that in the long run got them SK are you........
PS: China has no interest in NK other than being able to leverage the threat of an invasion by them into SK as their doorway into SK.
You want to go to war with China over SK? You think Obama would order an attack on 10,000 Chinese paratroopers by US Forces? Do you think SK wants a conflict with China and an invasion by NK at the same time? Think again.
When did N. Korea ever act under a “civilian” leadership. Give me a break! It is, and always has been, a military dictatorship run by a sick, demented little chia-pet family.
Christopher Hill is a total moron & a tool.
Christopher Hill is an American diplomat -- the best of the best in the Department of State.
Thus, saying that he is "a total moron & a tool" is redundant.
Because you see, CHINA has a magic crystal ball that tells them how to penetrate an "unclear, un-unified" chain of command" that makes them able to see & do things that America cannot.
If China had the ability & it was to their strategic advantage to take over the Korean peninsula, then it would have done so and told us to pound sand.
It doesn't, It isn't, and the Korean situation is all to their advantage - its win win for them & lose lose for us in the situation of the past 30 years or so.
Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
- Thucydides
A sure sign that the analysis is bogus. :)
“If China had the ability & it was to their strategic advantage to take over the Korean peninsula, then it would have done so and told us to pound sand.”
So it doesn’t matter whether a Regan, a GW Bush,....or an Obama is President at the time... I see.
Good post.....and with Kim’s cabinet being sifted, they are all on shaky ground, and young Kim wanting his own loyal comrades, the governance is truly unstable at this point. Therefore if anything is done it will be a covert operation to take down Kims dynasty. China will agree to place leadership over the people as N.Korea has become a thorn in their side they are weary of dealing with. The people would accept Chinese rule as they are indoctrinated that the Chinese are their allies.....South Korea doesn’t want refuges anymore than China. So they will agree as will the US. Just my take....but it is a good time to take this dynasty down...and a covert operation would be the start.
The way it works, is that China is doing it as a “humanitarian intervention” and to “end the instability”. China won’t be fighting the US and ROK, which will remain in place, and at most will engage any NORKs that try to come south.
This isn’t 1950. The ROK economy is nearly 50 times the size of the NORKs is. And China is one of ROKs biggest trading partners. ROKs ultimate goal is a reuinification. China does it to get “good guy” and “asian hegemon” credits. Then China partners with the south in an “economic development zone” in the former north,, CHina gets a lot of economic benefit from this, and the south avoids tremendous economic costs. (as Germany incurred with the east)
The bottom line is that nobody cares about the NORKS anymore. They were more soviet than Chinese. China intervened in 1950 because they believed US Forces were about to continue into Manchuria under that certifiable nut MacCarthur.
But today, China isn’t about to get into a cataclysmic war with two of its largest trading partners over the useless and oddball norks. The Chinese today worry about NORK refugees and mostly regard the NORK regime as you would a mentally challenged cousin.
There won’t be a 1950 redux,, at best, there will be a few minor skirmishes, an internal collapse, and a massive intervention as soon as the Chinese decide they are impeding business.
“and greatly underestimate the value of their wonderful new trading partner, South Korea”
And this is why China will soon facilitate the downfall of the NORK regime. They are costing everybody money, and are the only neighborhood nusiance. They have no allies. Everyone is sitting, waiting for the reasonable excuse. ANd the NORKS are falling apart,, with the ship torpedoing, and the shelling.
The vaunted NORK army will fall apart quickly,,, no NORK commander will dare take any action without direct orders. Their Army is structured and aimed at coup prevention and has no ability funtion on a modern battlefield.
It will eventually look like the fall of the Berlin wall, with maybe a few violent days, ala Ceaucescu.
ANd CHina walks away with a few big man on campus credits to show Taiwan, The P.I. and Vietnam is other disputes.
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