Posted on 12/22/2010 2:50:38 PM PST by blam
I want my reparations.
Picard = Patrick Stewart, a *Scot*.
Celts got here first.
Give us back our country.
:-P
I watched the show while the expert forensics artist did that sculpture, step by step.
He said the exact same thing [looks like Patrick Stewart] and pronounced Kennewick man to definitely be -European-.
He has since “recanted” under pressure.
Imagine that.
Somewhere around here, I have it recorded on a VHS tape.
The odds are very high that there were many more of his tribe living there.
So, who “exterminated” them?
“They also differ from my timeline since they are “political” ~ and make every effort to avoid having the Emperor’s family come from Korea”
I’ll say! There is huge animosity toward Koreans. I never understood why.
“Among other things he did with his new Samurai forces was to place them in Fukuoka where they could be quickly dispatched to the highly populated regions to the North and South.”
Another explanation. Thank you muawiyah. Are you a professor of Asian studies or something like that?
No, just an amateur historian.
BTW, in the period when the machine was built the Romans (and their satrapies) did not yet use a leap year in their calender, and unless you account for the 1/4 year drift each year you end up with your calendar out of synch. The machine accounted for that 1/4 year problem.
We get this same phenomenon later on with Plato who manages to discuss matters hundreds of years after his death ~ thanks to his "school".
The Chinese ALSO did some things in the BCE periods that look a bit out of place.
Transcultural relocation from East to West and West to East could certainly explain the lack of predecessors in both the East and the West.
For a very long time ~ probably hundreds of years since even the Ottoman's had questions about it ~ people hadn't figured out how the Greeks managed to plumb their columns and other temple structures. About 25 years back the problem was solved when someone found scratch marks in the floors. The ancients simply laid a floor and then drew the temple walls/columns on the floor. They then cut the stone to match and up went a perfectly plumbed building.
Still, there are undoubtedly some people still looking for surveyor's tools and detailed blueprints hidden in caves. It might make more sense to look for shims but I suspect the Greeks would have just cut the next layer of column up slightly askew so they wouldn't have to redo the bottom layer.
Periander is also someone to get acquainted with. He appears to have been a rather bright guy and he designed and built the first "railroad" in 600 BCE ~ check http://www.suite101.com/content/the-diolkos-an-ancient-railway-a24554
See post 90. The ancients were fully aware of that "drift", and had several methods of compensating for it.
But not the Romans ~ they knew about it but did nothing systematic to fix the problem. The machine was built under the period when the Romans OWNED Greece ~ so I doubt the Greeks were able to do much about changing Roman attitudes.
I've heard that when Rome fell, the people of the former dominions decided that everything Roman was evil, so they 'threw out the baby with the bath water', so to speak.
Like our own civilization, the Roman Empire was an interconnected, living entity. When the heart stopped beating, all of those inter-dependencies collapsed along with it, and thousands of specialized functions and knowledge fell by the wayside.
Much was also intentionally suppressed out of living knowledge by the 'new broom' of conquerors. I have no doubt that there were much earlier civilizations who suffered the same fate.
The Christians later civilized the Barbarians and somehow managed to resurrect the techno movement the came back to life around the 17th century relying on the foundations abstracted by the Greeks.
Can you imagine the level of technological advancement we'd have today, if the Roman Empire had not collapsed, but merely morphed politically? I think we would have already colonized other worlds.
So, what are you saying? That the Greeks built this device while under the domination of the Romans, so that they could accurately pinpoint the precise date of their Olympic games?
Enslaved people don't ordinarily make technological strides forward.
Or, perhaps you're now assigning attribution for the device to the Romans, who, per you, cared nothing about the accuracy of their own calendar?
Again, the logic is untidy.
I don't doubt that the device could have been used to plot the precise starting date of the Olympic games. I just don't believe that it was produced primarily for that reason.
It was like if Jaquard had invented the cards to control the looms but nobody would front him the bucks to make more cards. Luckily for the rest of us he had no trouble getting financing, and next thing you know we have super computers.
The ancient greeks were left holding a geared clock/calendar/calculator and nowhere to go with it.
Remember, back in Roman times life of the average person was brutish, short and filled with ignorance. The problem with the Romans is they seemed to like it that way.
Hm...
I think natural disasters, plagues and etc. should have more credit for the collapse/demise of civilizations. An example:
Santorini Eruption Much larger Than Originally Believed
The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?
If humans are to survive, we must get off this world.
Heck with that. I’m still waiting for my reparations for that bastage Oliver Cromwell stealing my ancestors’ land in County Waterford, Ireland in the 17th century. Give Ireland back to the Irish!
I totally agree. Planets and cultures are frail things. They do not persist. We need to seed the cosmos with our progeny.
Well, I must say, the times have changed. As I read through this thread, I fully expected to come across a picture of Helen Thomas somewhere. (Ancient Caucasian)
One other thought: Isn’t it time the Government formed a Bureau of Caucasian Affairs?
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