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Is it lights out for light bulbs?
Fortune ^ | Jan. 12, 2010 | Andrew B. Lewis

Posted on 01/13/2011 5:16:29 PM PST by Innovative

In 2007, Congress passed new bulb standards requiring at least a 25% increase in efficiency for 100-watt bulbs by 2012 and smaller-wattage bulbs by 2014, leading to the replacement of incandescent light bulbs with compact fluorescent (CFL) and halogen bulbs. Barton's bill, the Better Use of Light Bulbs (BULB) act, was introduced in September. He wants to nullify the standards, which he claims cost U.S. jobs and are a safety hazard.

The BULB act was not taken seriously until it became a key part of the struggle between Barton and Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), a sponsor of the standards, to run the House Energy and Commerce Committee. Upton won, but he had to agree to revisit his own law. "We have heard the grass roots loud and clear," he says. Though the bill is likely to die in session, Limbaugh wants Congress to pass it as its first act in January.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bulbs; congress; economy; evonomy; globalwarming; government; incandescentlights; lightbulbs; limbaugh; regulations
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The government is comjpletely taking over our lives and people are like frogs in the water, since it's gradual, they just sit there until we are all cooked.

I hope they do take up Barton's bill to reverse the idiotic regulations.

1 posted on 01/13/2011 5:16:31 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

I would prefer to let the market replace incandescent bulbs with LED bulbs.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 5:19:39 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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They are mercury fired lightbulbs. They should be declared hazmat if you apply other federal agency rules. Just trucking them from the factory is a crime. Disposal of them is even worse.


3 posted on 01/13/2011 5:19:56 PM PST by blackdog
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This will work about as well as those water saver toilets. I have one of those and they don’t save water.

I want my incadescents.


4 posted on 01/13/2011 5:21:28 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Innovative
until we are all cooked.

We are already cooked. Your response?

5 posted on 01/13/2011 5:22:17 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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To: blackdog

Consumer Product Safety Commission
Mercury Vapors Are Hazardous

CPSC Document #5057

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5057.html

“CPSC recommends that consumers avoid breathing mercury vapors. Most uses of mercury that expose consumers to fumes are banned.”

What happens when a CFL bulb breaks, you get mercury vapors...


6 posted on 01/13/2011 5:24:00 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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They are mercury fired lightbulbs. They should be declared hazmat

In breaking two household fever thermometers as a child I released more mercury into the house than I would have by breaking 60+ CFLs.

And I am still fine

still fine

still fine

still fine

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7 posted on 01/13/2011 5:24:27 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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“We are already cooked. Your response?”

I am afraid you are right. But it can and will continue to get worse...


8 posted on 01/13/2011 5:25:31 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Innovative

I’m betting enterprising tinkers could manufacture their own Edison bulbs. Yeah they’re inefficient, but they’ll outlast you.


9 posted on 01/13/2011 5:26:34 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: fatnotlazy
I want my incadescents.

Is "incadescent" a variety of toilet? Is it more efficient (in one way or another) than others?

10 posted on 01/13/2011 5:26:59 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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Thermostats have liquid mercury, not mercury vapors, CFLs are filled with mercury vapors, also see my previous posts about the Consumer Product Safety Commission declaring mercury vapors hazardous.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 5:27:38 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: GAB-1955
I would prefer to let the market replace incandescent bulbs with LED bulbs.

If the market has a say, incandescents will be with us for a long, long time (I hope!).

12 posted on 01/13/2011 5:28:27 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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fatnotlazy: “I want my incandescents.”

It amazes me that a Republican administration signed off on this crap. It only proves many Republicans are only slightly less interested in statism than the Democrats / Marxists. They tell us what kinds of shower heads, toilets, and light bulbs to use. Whatever happened to liberty? More importantly, where does this stop?


13 posted on 01/13/2011 5:28:38 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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To: Clint Williams

It isn’t the question of efficiency, it’s the quality of the lighting. Why shouldn’t I be able to use bulbs of whatever efficiency that I want, why should the government regulate how efficient lightbulbs, cars, toilet, etc should be, that I use?


14 posted on 01/13/2011 5:29:38 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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“This will work about as well as those water saver toilets. I have one of those and they don’t save water.”

Another one of my pet peeves — why is the government in my bathroom? And you are right, they not only don’t save water, but waste water.


15 posted on 01/13/2011 5:31:32 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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It's the ever increasing contradictory rulings which agencies have as their mandates that I discuss this.

I used to do tin plating to a specification required by the military inspectors. Failure to do it could result in felony charges if it was not done to that specification.

Then another federal agency declared that it was illegal to do that type of tin plating. To do so could result in civil and criminal charges.

So what do you do?

We sent the military contract work to China.

16 posted on 01/13/2011 5:32:10 PM PST by blackdog
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Incandescant light bulbs?

Oh. You mean heat lamps.

Silly Americans.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 5:32:40 PM PST by BenKenobi (The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there)
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Can anyone explain to me how you waste water? It goes thru cycles and changes, but it never gets "used"

It's like saying don't fall too much or you'll use up all the gravity.

18 posted on 01/13/2011 5:34:13 PM PST by blackdog
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“Can anyone explain to me how you waste water?”

The “water saving” toilets waste water — if you have a regular toilet, 5 gallons washes down a lot of stuff, down the pipes. If you just pour small amounts of water, it just trickles and doesn’t have the force to really wash things down, it has a much smaller pressure, so you ultimately have to flush many more time, ending up using more than one “old fashioned” flush.

They clear pipes with high pressure water — i.e. pressure matters.


19 posted on 01/13/2011 5:40:17 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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I suppose for people who pay a water bill, having to double-flush the algore toilet qualifies as wasting water. In actuality, it’s wasting money, but I get the point.


20 posted on 01/13/2011 5:45:12 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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