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Einstein was right - honey bee collapse threatens global food security
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8:30PM GMT 06 Feb 2011 | By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor

Posted on 02/06/2011 2:45:11 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin

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To: Balding_Eagle

I don’t let carpenter bees on the property unless they show proof of coverage.


41 posted on 02/06/2011 3:52:47 PM PST by Walmartian
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To: DeaconBenjamin

1) Bees do very little grain pollinating.
2) Food prices are rising in the US due more to devalued dollars and 30-40% more ag land being planted in corn for ethanol production with subsidized energy policies.
3) In the midwest, bee colonie mortality often hits 30-40% ranges during the frequent cold and long winters.
4) CCD is the latest horror rage among environazis. Yes, it’s a problem, but it’s one we (beekeepers) have been struggling with for close to two decades (CCD hit the press only 3 years back).
5) It’s the sky that is falling.


42 posted on 02/06/2011 3:54:53 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Repeal The 17th

Carpenter bees need killing.

I’m very territorial, and anything that tries to occupy my premises without paying rent, must die. Birds, flies, spiders, bees, no quarter and no mercy.

There are some good videos on youtube about dealing with carpenter bees, but after I saw a little pile of sawdust on my porch, I called a professional hitman and he poisoned them well and truly. That was three years ago, they never returned.

Outdoors, I don’t care what they do, they can drill every tree along the river, not my problem. But inside, no transients allowed. I don’t care if it’s a honey bee or a homing pigeon, they either git, or life forfeit.


43 posted on 02/06/2011 3:56:09 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (BYOST -- bring your own sark tag. Thank you.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

No, that’s the rain forest.


44 posted on 02/06/2011 4:00:11 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: alloysteel

Ethanol doesn’t and never has taken food out of the food chain. The only part of the corn kernel used for ethanol is the carbohydrate, the fat and protein are processed in to DDGS which are used for both animal and human feed.


45 posted on 02/06/2011 4:00:15 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I’m very territorial, and anything that tries to occupy my premises without paying rent, must die.

A badminton racket works well.

46 posted on 02/06/2011 4:00:42 PM PST by Walmartian
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To: La Lydia

Aren’t there resistant species of bees, albeit non-indigenous, that could be used in many of these areas?


47 posted on 02/06/2011 4:01:05 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Wuli
I remember the PBS clip of "hawaii" or related nature video of a man climbing a cliff to pollinate a racamia (ricamia?) flower so that there would be seeds, because the native pollinator was extinct.

Couldn't hand pollination be done en masse to save species and crops until resistant bees are bred or engineered?

48 posted on 02/06/2011 4:03:34 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: 4rcane

Our garden has been suffering for lack of pollination; and we do have some honey bees in our area - they just don’t come over to our place. Husband bought some Mason Bees (they aren’t honey bees, but do pollinate) and is going to try them this year. They’re in my refrigerator right now awaiting the time to put them out.


49 posted on 02/06/2011 4:09:18 PM PST by Twinkie (Two wrongs don't make a right.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Quick—build squirrel boxes...2 ft X 2 ft X 2.5 ft deep. 1 inch boards. lol

The bees just love ours. They took this one away from the squirrels 3 years ago.

The box is about 20 ft up in a tree and there have been many swarms.
I think they are raising lots of baby bees.


50 posted on 02/06/2011 4:16:23 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The sky is falling, run for it!!!


51 posted on 02/06/2011 4:36:23 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Honey Bees ! The old NEW Global Warming !
52 posted on 02/06/2011 4:38:42 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: sodpoodle

Actually bumble bees probably do more than honey bees, and then you have the king of the birds, hummingbirds,


53 posted on 02/06/2011 4:39:38 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Seriously, how much of this is CCD and how much is ethanol? I suspect the tendency to blame the former (CCD) is because of the left’s complicity in the latter (ethanol).


54 posted on 02/06/2011 4:41:55 PM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: driftdiver
"A pesticide which is persistent and has a long half life. Meaning it will survive in the soil for years (estimated to exceed 19 yrs) after its used. Its also cumulative so each spraying simply increases the impact."

And what pesticide is that, pray tell. Unfortunately for your theory, the causes of hive collapse have already been identified, and its not a pesticide. But my guess is that the bees themselves will solve the problem using that much-maligned concept....evolution.

55 posted on 02/06/2011 5:04:15 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

“And what pesticide is that, pray tell. Unfortunately for your theory, the causes of hive collapse have already been identified,”

Yes its due to neonicotinoid pesticides which have now been banned in Britain.

To ‘evolve’ a surviving population is required. At the present rate of decline that may be an issue.

But since you are so smart perhaps you can tell us all what the real cause is.


56 posted on 02/06/2011 5:24:24 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: alloysteel
"Yet the American corn crop, while much increased, is also not getting into the food chain. It is being diverted into the manufacture of ethanol, a rather finicky motor fuel, that is both less energy-dense than petroleum fractions commonly used for fuel, and causes its own set of problems in the fuel blends in which it is dispensed."

Complete and total baloney. The fraction of the US corn crop that goes to produce ethanol (4 billion bushels out of a total of 13 billion bushels) has pretty much zero effect on corn products on the shelves. And the simple fact is that the use of corn in ethanol does NOT reduce the total food supply.

Farmers produce more EXTRA corn than they normally would for normal food usage for the ethanol market, which, when used, does NOT disappear from the food chain. The only part that does is the carbohydrate fraction. The fat and protein fractions remain (distillers dry grain) and are excellent cattle feed.

Here's the USDA statistics. See the third chart chart down:

http://www.ers.usda.gov/briefing/baseline/crops.htm

57 posted on 02/06/2011 5:32:21 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: driftdiver
"But since you are so smart perhaps you can tell us all what the real cause is."

Already posted upthread.

58 posted on 02/06/2011 5:36:16 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: driftdiver
"To ‘evolve’ a surviving population is required. At the present rate of decline that may be an issue."

LOL. Read the article. Two-thirds of colonies survive. I read an article just yesterday about weeds that had developed resistance to "Roundup-type" herbicides in ten years or less. I suspect that the time cycle of evolutionary change in honeybees is about the same as for weeds.

59 posted on 02/06/2011 5:40:25 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: DeaconBenjamin
I've been telling people for 40 years that bees were very important to the life cycle. But did they listen...Noooooooo....now they listen.
60 posted on 02/06/2011 5:43:27 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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