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Martin Rees: Atheists should drop anti-religion campaigns
The Guardian ^ | 24 April, 2011 | Ian Sample

Posted on 04/27/2011 5:54:26 AM PDT by AustralianConservative

Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, has called on anti-religion campaigners to abandon their tactics and strive for "peaceful coexistence" with mainstream religious groups.

Rees, one of the country's most senior scientists, criticised those who pit science against religion and urged atheists to embrace the moderate strands of faith in opposing fundamentalism.

The Cambridge cosmologist declared what he described as his "pallid and boring" view in an article in the New Statesman that amounts to a defence of his decision to accept a £1m prize given annually by the Templeton Foundation for work of a spiritual nature.

The announcement that Rees had accepted drew criticism from some scientists who claim the prize undermines the integrity of science.

Rees said some modern proponents of Darwinism took a "glaringly different stance to the Victorian naturalist who once commented that religion was too profound for the human intellect to comprehend.

"We should all oppose – as Darwin did – views manifestly in conflict with the evidence, such as creationism … But we shouldn't set up this debate as 'religion v science'; instead we should strive for peaceful coexistence with at least the less dogmatic strands of mainstream religions, which number many excellent scientists among their adherents."

Rees, who is master of Trinity College, Cambridge, was among the first generation of scientists to contemplate the big bang. In subsequent work he has asked how large is physical reality.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: atheism; christianity; rees; science; unitedkingdom
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/apr/24/martin-rees-atheists-drop-campaigns
1 posted on 04/27/2011 5:54:34 AM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: AustralianConservative

Will religion drop anti-atheism campaigns?


2 posted on 04/27/2011 6:08:01 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.- H. L. Mencken)
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To: AustralianConservative
Martin Rees, the astronomer royal, has called on anti-religion campaigners to abandon their tactics and strive for "peaceful coexistence" with mainstream religious groups.

But that would be against the militant atheists' anti-Christian bigots' religion.

3 posted on 04/27/2011 6:11:07 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: AustralianConservative

They aren’t atheists. They are anti-Christians.


4 posted on 04/27/2011 6:11:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

well, bluntly if you are an atheist and don’t believe in God or Hell or Heaven, then someone telling you that you are going to hell can be ignored by you, right?


5 posted on 04/27/2011 6:15:14 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: AustralianConservative

Not going to happen.

The lives of anti-theists would lose their self-determined meaning if they abandoned their burning hatred for religion.

Just look at some of the comments to this article. Anti-theists use their position to promote themselves as SUPERIOR to others. They are egomaniacs with what they call “superior theories backed up by scientific evidence and a long history of non-violent disagreement.”

What would they have without that false sense of superiority? They sure as hell don’t love their fellow man and hedonism can only go so far.

Likewise, I will never relent in my brutal war against secular culture and it’s goal of communism. No silly accommodations. May they all rot.


6 posted on 04/27/2011 6:26:05 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: AustralianConservative
the Victorian naturalist who once commented that religion was too profound for the human intellect to comprehend.

Is Rees referring to the thing Darwin said about not trusting metaphysics to the minds of monkeys (us)?

7 posted on 04/27/2011 7:00:31 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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They are egomaniacs with what they call “superior theories backed up by scientific evidence and a long history of non-violent disagreement.”

*Cough*Stalin*Pol Pot*Lenin*Mao*Mussolini*Cough*

8 posted on 04/27/2011 7:07:07 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Soothesayer

I take your points. I also think that when a fellow atheist says his side is too extreme then that’s progress (aka truth).


9 posted on 04/27/2011 3:48:50 PM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: Oztrich Boy

100 million-plus people have died under militant atheism alone. I wouldn’t get so hung up on Christians and their Christmas trees.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 3:51:18 PM PDT by AustralianConservative
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Good question.


11 posted on 04/27/2011 3:52:26 PM PDT by AustralianConservative
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Thanks AustralianConservative. Here's the buried lead, should stir up some trouble around here:
"We should all oppose -- as Darwin did -- views manifestly in conflict with the evidence, such as creationism ... But we shouldn't set up this debate as 'religion v science'; instead we should strive for peaceful coexistence with at least the less dogmatic strands of mainstream religions, which number many excellent scientists among their adherents."
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12 posted on 04/28/2011 9:17:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: AppyPappy

Concur... atheism is a religion upon itself


13 posted on 04/29/2011 5:01:07 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

Which, when pointed out to them, does ~not~ amuse them one little bit.

:)

I had a neighbor who was an atheist.
He also called himself a satanist but denied satan even existed.

After listening to about 20 minutes of “explanations and rationalizations”, I could only blink in blank ferret amazement.

A couple years later, he shot himself.

I’m not sure where he thought he wasn’t going when he died.


14 posted on 04/29/2011 9:17:22 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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15 posted on 04/29/2011 9:49:35 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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