Posted on 05/05/2011 6:30:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Oops.......left out a few words there. There is a nation to save from Marxism and we need to be about the business of building up conservatism.
(For me that's the purpose of the forum. For BDSers, it's clearly not).
I think a lot of old posters are liberal trolls and they keep bringing more in.
One thing's for sure. On any given day you can't tell a leftist troll from a 'pure conservative.'
You know how it is about the far right meeting the radical left on the other side of the circle?
Can't tell the difference, and neither want what's best for conservatism, nor the country. They just want to disrupt and discourage those of us who are actually doing the work.
Good post!
I'm glad to see that Buford doesn't always behave badly as he did here, picking a random fight by calling someone a name who hadn't said a peep to him.
That's encouraging. Maybe he was just having a bad day and couldn't stop himself once the names started flowing. :)
LOL, I see you have encountered this before. Be wary of red headed Bush-bots.
Red head? I thought it was blue.
Just making a general observation, not specific.
How are you doing? I heard a certain Bush-bot was sticking pins in Rabs doll last night, another posted a (Bush-bot) curse in a comment here. Did it work? You OK?
LOL
same-same ;-)
This kitty has more than nine lives.
A little history for the Real Conservatives
not that it will help ....(you wont recognize who you were in the 1980s)
The carping continued after Reagan left office but gradually dissipated ....Reagan’s reaction to the Real Conservatives? He just laughed
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Conservatives Disappointed with Shift by Reagan NYTimes June 26, 1983:
“…Ideological conservatives, who provided the core of Ronald Reagan’s support in 1980, have been deeply disappointed with his performance as President, especially what they regard as his growing moderation in advance of the 1984 campaign. The conservatives said in interviews this week that they agreed with most of Mr. Reagan’s goals but felt he had been too timid in fighting for them. As an example, they noted that he was no longer pressing Congress to abolish the Department of Education. Howard Phillips, chairman of the Conservative Caucus, said Mr. Reagan, in adopting a ”nonconfrontational political strategy to mollify the Washington establishment,” seemed to have forgotten the people who ‘’sustained him in the political wilderness for all those years.”
”President Reagan has not proposed, much less achieved, a balanced budget; has not fundamentally changed the nation’s arms control policies, and has not stopped the buildup of Soviet power in the Western Hemisphere,” Mr. Phillips said. ”The failures are a result of his overarching strategy: articulating policy aspirations that inspire conservative hopes, but then pressing to implement those objectives only to the degree they can be accomplished by consensus. And consensus is impossible to achieve if fundamental change is the goal.’‘ Betrayal of Principles Seen
Joel M. Skousen, executive editor of Conservative Digest, a monthly magazine published by Richard A. Viguerie, the conservative fund-raiser, said that ”Mr. Reagan is now seen as untrustworthy by many conservatives who believe he has betrayed his own principles in an effort to appease his critics” on such domestic issues as education, welfare, the budget and taxes. Ideological conservatives have been expressing similar views for at least a year, but their concerns take on special urgency as the 1984 election approaches. Many conservatives said the President seemed to take their support for granted, on the assumption that they had no place to go and would have to back him if he ran for re-election. The conservatives conceded they were unlikely to support another candidate, but said the more significant question was how hard they would work for Mr. Reagan if he ran. ”If the present trend continues, as we expect, ideological conservatives would withhold their support from the President,” Mr. Skousen said. ”We would not actively campaign for him.”
John D. Lofton Jr., a conservative columnist for The Washington Times who calls himself an ”unreconstructed Reaganite,” said: ”The President lacks the courage of his convictions, which are sound. Conservative activists are the core constituency of the Republican Party. If they sit on their hands in a close contest, Republican candidates for the Presidency, for Congress and for local office would all be in trouble.” Reagan Aide Acknowledges Debt Morton C. Blackwell, a special assistant to the President who serves as his liaison agent with conservative organizations and religious groups, said he often heard such complaints. Insisting that Mr. Reagan did not take them for granted, Mr. Blackwell said, ”Without the support of these conservative groups, we would never have won the nomination or the general election in 1980.” M. Stanton Evans, a syndicated columnist who is former chairman of the American Conservative Union, said the President had been ”illserved by some members of his staff who do not seem to share his commitment to the conservative program on which he ran.” Mr. Evans contended that Mr. Reagan was surrounded by pragmatic advisers who were too willing to compromise. Foremost among these advisers, he said, are James A. Baker 3d, the White House chief of staff, and his deputy, Richard G. Darman, and Kenneth M. Duberstein, assistant to the President for legislative affairs. ”It is very difficult to administer a conservative revolution with people like that as your agents,” Mr. Evans said, ”because they are not conservative revolutionaries but pragmatists.” …
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NYTimes Jan 22, 1982 Paul Weyrich deserts Reagan:
“…Forty-five conservative activists and organization leaders warned President Reagan today that he was allowing ”the abandonment, reversal or blunting” of the policies that got him elected, such as opposition to abortion, lower taxes and a tough line with the Soviet Union. After meeting for most of the day at a Washington hotel, spokesmen for the group repeatedly denounced Administration aides, whom they would not identify, contending that they were subverting Mr. Reagan’s conservative instincts. Howard Phillips, national director of the Conservative Caucus, said these individuals were responsible for what they felt was the Reagan Administration’s mistake of trying to ”woo his adversaries rather than mobilize his supporters.” Paul M. Weyrich, director of the Committee for the Survival of a Free Congress, said the ”Administration has been getting the image of not caring about some of the Middle-American voters who elected them.” He contended that ignoring issues like abortion or relations with Taiwan carried a serious political risk, too. ”From a political standpoint, if all the issues in the 1982 election are economic issues, we may well suffer losses that we would not have to suffer,” he said. Cannot Support Reagan Foes The spokesmen conceded that they faced a difficult time because they could not plausibly threaten to support Mr. Reagan’s foes. Mr. Phillips said support of Mr. Reagan and the hope of influencing him was ”our best option, indeed our only option for the time being.”
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William Safire, NYTimes, January 21, 1982
“…President Reagan, the former hard-liner, having turned his State Department over to a crew of waffling accommodationists, probably feels he occupies the middle ground in foreign affairs – and that his old supporters have ”nowhere else to go.” He is profoundly mistaken. The revolt of the hawks is under way, the ranks are swelling with the most surprising volunteers, the search for new leadership has begun, and if Ronald Reagan fails to awake to the hard-liners’ anger at his betrayal, he will discover that he has lost this bedrock constituency….”
OK, so you hate conservatives. That makes sense, explains why you are trashing Reagan to prop up Bush.
Reagan left office loved and respected and won his VP a third term. He won the cold war giving us a peace dividend that lasted a decade. What did your RINO hero leave us ? Mess after mess, Pelosi and Obama.
Safe light bulbs are banned nationwide after 2012 and 2013. You know who did that? Not Obama. The Bush/Pelosi energy bill 2007. Break a few of the new GWB toxic light bulbs in your car and then spend the night with them and then tell me what a hero Bush was.
Of course, I wouldn't, but that's because I didn't exist until 1985, years after the articles you cited.
ALL articles from the NY Times......LOL!!
You have Zero understanding ...
I certainly do not hate conservatives nor do I hate you holier than thou “Real Conservatives “. ...but I do really really dislike willfully blind and ignorant people who refuse to recognize that NO President , NO politician , and NO people are capable of fulfilling some utopian fantasy that you have of what should or should not have happened.
Real Life is a little more complicated than that ....
If Reagan was around today he would have the utmost respect for GW Bush and he would show that respect. Both Bush and Reagan are worthy of respect
You should also be reminded that neither Bush nor Reagan had to be President....they could easily have remained the successful men they already were. They made a choice and once elected they got to make hard choice after hard choice every day they were in office.....choices that almost no one wants to make . I will always be grateful to them for doing it .
Based on how you present yourself I doubt you will ever make a similar hard choice ......I think you will instead remain smug and cock sure that you are better than GW Bush ..... just as Im pretty sure if you were around in the 1980s you would be just like one of these critics of Ronald Reagan ....because like a spoiled child you “know” better than him what he should have done. My last words to you and all your like minded friends is “Grow Up....if you are able to”
Miami Herald, on Jan 21, 1984
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“…Conservatives may not back President Reagan for reelection in 1984 unless he reverses what they consider “almost a stampede to the left” in the White House, New Right leaders said Tuesday. “Quick and comprehensive changes” in Reagan’s staff and policies are needed to win back longtime supporters in the conservative wing of the Republican Party, they indicated. Howard Phillips, who heads the Conservative Caucus, and Richard Viguerie…’
But you were right there in spirit ....Im sure you would have made a wonderful critic of Reagan ....
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