Posted on 06/22/2011 3:16:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Al GOre didn’t really become those things until after he lost the presidential primary in 1988. Back then, he was one of the less annoying democrats, and somewhat “conservative”.
I see you've sucked some other good freeper into a pointless attempt at discussing things with you.
Your ignorance as to what I care about is certainly not surprising; your selective interpretations are par for the course, and your "ability" to reduce complex discussions to the level of a dribbling 2-year-old are legendary.
Birth control pills don't "stop" pregnancy either. Chicken Pox vaccine doesn't "last forever". Vaccines are discussed based on what they vaccinate against; saying something is a vaccination for a disease never means that it is 100% effective. Pretending Gardasil is only targeted to cervical cancers and therefore isn't worth it is a straw-man argument; HPV infects hundreds of millions of women, and Gardasil does, in the time period for which they have evidence, significantly reduce the HPV infection rate among those who take the vaccine. It is simply bad science to pretend otherwise, and stupid to do so for political purposes.
I just say this because some people reading might actually think you have a factual point to make. I don't expect you care one bit about the actual facts.
As to your bizarre "You know nothing to think Gardasil "treats cervical cancers"", that was your misleading implication which I was refuting; nice try to turn your own argument around, but people can read.
I won't even get into your bizarre notion of what a "curable disease" is. People die of cervical cancer, even with detection and treatment. You don't have to support Gardasil to know how stupid your argument was on that point.
Except for those who actually knew him... even in Vietnam he was hated.
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I was just addressing the point about his ecoterrorist views, which he seemed to develop in the 1990s. He developed a lot of more bizarre views after the 1988 presidential run, like turning against smoking rights.
There are more than a few southernors who used to be democrats who I wouldn’t dismiss out-of-hand; I’d rather evaluate Perry on his extensive record in the past decade than fret about what he was doing in the 1980s.
You smear the truth just like you do when you
defend your Obama and your Romney, CharlesWayneCT-RomneyBOT.
There are so many errors in your post regarding
mechanism, effectivity, and medicine itself
that you prove to FReepers that much of what
you post is a pathetic joke defending pathetic losers.
Of course you won’t get into RISK BENEFIT issues.
Of course you won’t get into INFORMED CONSENT issues.
Of course not. THOSE ARE THE ISSUES.
And YOU SUPPORT ROMNEYCARE and its/his FASCISM.
I understand what you were saying now... but I do not trust anyone like perry without verification and there is plenty of actions and words of recent vintage to concern me.
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I am not a huge fan of Perry, but
compared to Romney, Newt, and the rest of JOKES running for President he’s a rock star.
We need somebody who can WIN this thing. That means somebody with cross-over appeal, which our Palen, Bachmann and Cain (no matter how much we love them) simply do not have.
Until 1989, Rick Perry was a conservative Democrat. He switched parties as, like many Democrats including Ronald Reagan and Phil Gramm, he saw that party moving farther and farther to the left. Under Perry’s decade as governor, hundreds of Texas Democrats have followed his lead and become Republicans. As a former Democrat, Perry can speak to that swath of his former party that has become disenchanted with their party as President Obama has taken it even farther to the left, in a way that few Republicans can. He can also speak well and credibly to all wings of the national GOP, from the fiscal cons to the social cons to the libertarian set.
He would appeal to all segments of the Republican electorate and would come armed with a record of economic success and a commitment to liberty that no other contender can match.
Texas has been voted #1 business climate for the last seven years.
Texas has been getting all of California’s jobs.
Perry must be doing something right.
We need a good business guy right now.
Perry has proved it.
. Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor- and so did Nugent.
Sarah just restated the other day she likes Perry
.Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh-on-the-record-3/
. Pro-life, Pro-guns, pro-spending cuts, pro-business
. He’s an outside-the-Beltway candidate
. He is not a Ivy League grad
. He was an Air Force captain who flew a C-130
. Speaks Spainish.
(Odumbo says everybody should speak a foreign language, but he CAN’T)
. Fighting with Obama on many fronts
Google Perry/Obama and you will see he’s been fighting him and his government for the past two years.
. Since Perry has been Governor of Texas, Texas has added more than 850,000 jobs, more than all other states combined. Texas has added over 180,000 jobs since August of 2009.
. There is no such thing as ‘Perrycare’
. Signed into law sonogram and explanation by physician before abortion
. Signed into law, photo ID ident to vote
. Perry did not apply for federal “Race to the Top” education funds because he said it would force national standards upon Texas.
. He has vetoed a record 248 bills, including dozens after the 2001 session, angering many lawmakers.
. He said last year that President Barack Obama was “hell-bent” on turning America into a socialist country.
. Won governorship of state with lots of latinos
. According to this web site Texas is #1 this year and last year for business friendly.
http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-states-for-business
Obama would not want not run against a governor that has the BEST business climate in the U.S. when everything else is in a depression.
. He used to be a Democrat. So? So did Reagan.
. The Bush’s don’t like him
. Perry has a reputation for not sweating
• He refused to raise taxes when Texas faced a record $10 billion budget shortfall in 2003. Instead, he was the first Texas governor since World War II to sign a budget that lowered state spending (and has now done it twice). As governor, Perry has used his line item veto to cut over $3 billion in proposed spending.
• In 2005, Perry signed a historic $15.7 billion property tax cut for homeowners and businesses that also included new taxpayer protections against appraisal increases. In 2009, Gov. Perry secured a tax cut for approximately 40,000 small businesses in Texas and protected the Rainy Day Fund for future challenges.
• He led the battle to pass the country’s most sweeping lawsuit reforms, closing the door on junk lawsuits that had been making trial lawyers rich while driving countless doctors either out of the state or the profession all together. Since Texas voters approved these reforms, malpractice claims and premiums have fallen and access to healthcare is increasing across the state as doctors have applied in droves to practice in Texas.
. He has never lost an election, including an elementary school contest for “king” of the Paint Creek School Carnival. He secured that win by handing out pennies for votes.
. Perry is also known for his socially conservative views on homosexuality, and he opposes same sex marriage. He condemned the United States Supreme Court decision in Lawrence vs. Texas, which struck down a Texas sodomy law. He called the law “appropriate”
ABORTION:
. Perry is pro-life and opposes government funding for elective abortions. In 2005, Perry, a social conservative, signed a bill that limited late-term abortions and required girls under the age of 18 who procure abortions to notify their parents. Perry signed the bill in the gymnasium of Calvary Christian Academy in Fort Worth, an evangelical Christian school.
Perry signed into law a bill requiring a sonogram and doctor’s explanation before granting an abortion
In 2005, Perry signed a new law that requires minor girls to receive parental consent before getting an abortion. This law strengthens a parental notification law Perry supported as Lt. Gov. in 1999, which
helped reduce teen abortions by 26 percent.
Perry has also signed a ban on third trimester abortions, a ban on tax dollars being used to support abortion facilities, a prenatal protection act that protects
unborn children from assault, and an informed consent law that helps expectant mothers better understand the risks and consequences of abortion. Perry supports a ban on human cloning and will veto any
legislation that provides state dollars for embryonic stem cell research, a process that ends a human life.
Perry urges to keep up pressure to roll back the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion until “Roe v. Wade is nothing but a shameful footnote in our nation’s history books.
Perry, a frequent critic of the federal government, also bashed President Barack Obama for his administration’s policy allowing federal funding of embryonic stem cell research, saying he was deeply disturbed by studies that turn “the remains of unborn children into nothing more than raw material.”
Perry has faulted Obama for reversing the so-called “Mexico City policy” that banned giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide information about abortions. Obama struck down the policy during his first week in office, saying it was too broad and undermined family planning in developing countries.
Under Obama “our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export,” Perry said.
IMMIGRATION:
Perry adds immigration issues to lawmaker session
Perry wants passage of a measure requiring every person arrested to be run through the federal immigration databases as part of the Secure Communities program. He also wants to provide the state Department of Public Safety with the authority to make sure someone is in the U.S. legally before issuing a driver’s license.
These measures, along with a ban on sanctuary cities, would “provide a clear message that Texas will not turn a blind eye to those breaking our laws,” Perry said in a statement.
“Texas owes it to the brave law enforcement officials, who put their lives on the line every day to protect our families and communities, to give them the discretion they need to adequately do their jobs,” Perry said.
http://www.rickperry.org/media-articles/perry-adds-immigration-issues-lawmakers-agenda-0?amp
.Gov. Perry has made numerous requests of the federal govt. to enforce the border in Texas including handing Pre. Obama a letter in person when he landed in Dallas last year.
.Perry signed into law photo ID required before voting.
CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS:
In what was described as a “God and country” sermon at the Cornerstone church in San Antonio, attended by Perry and other mostly Republican candidates, the Rev. John Hagee stated, “If you live your life and don’t confess your sins to God Almighty through the authority of Christ and His blood, I’m going to say this very plainly, you’re going straight to hell with a nonstop ticket.” Perry was asked if he agreed with those comments and said, “It is my faith, and I’m a believer of that.”[39] Perry went on to say that there was nothing in the sermon that he took exception with.
Humorist and entertainer Kinky Friedman, the Jewish independent candidate for governor in the 2006 election, said, “He doesn’t think very differently from the Taliban, does he?” Carole Keeton Strayhorn disagreed with Perry’s comments, and Democrat Chris Bell said that one who is in public office should “respect people of all faiths and denominations”.
Conservatives then responded, arguing that Perry had a right to his religious beliefs, and that he was not disrespecting Americans of other religious convictions.[40] While visiting Israel in August 2009, Perry gave an interview to the Jerusalem Post in which he affirmed his support for Israel from his religious background, “I’m a big believer that this country was given to the people of Israel a long time ago, by God, and that’s ordained.”
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES:
Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue.[69] In a September 7, 2007, speech to California Republicans, Perry said, “Virtually every day another scientist leaves the global warming bandwagon. ... But you won’t read about that in the press because they have already invested in one side of the story.”
MISC:
PERRY ISSUES OBAMA A COUPLE OF BIG FUBOs:
1. “Texas to Allow Regular Incandescent Bulbs”
Reports are the governor will sign Bill HB2510 by June 19th.
Bill HB2510 allows for the manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs otherwise banned in federal legislation of 2007, applicable from 1 January 2012 onwards.
The legality, at least in the way the proposed law is framed, has apparently been cleared with the US Attorney General’s office.
The Bill has already passed in both House and Senate with overwhelming support.
While Texas has no current manufacture, relevant parties are being invited to restart it.
Texas has been a leading US state in providing new local jobs, and this is seen as a further contributive measure.
http://freedomlightbulb.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-to-allow-incandescent-light-bulbs.html
2.Perry Adds TSA Anti-Groping Bill to Call
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/tea-party/updated-perry-adds-tsa-anti-groping-bill-to-call/ ^
Gov. Rick Perry this evening announced the addition of TSA anti-groping legislation to the agenda for the special legislative session. In a statement, he said lawmakers could consider legislation “relating to the prosecution and punishment for the offense of official oppression on those seeking access to public buildings and transportation.”
. He played quarterback on the six-man football team for the Paint Creek Pirates. He also played basketball and ran track.
. He is an Eagle Scout and wrote a book about the Boy Scouts, ‘On My Honor’.
Rick Perry uses the Boy Scouts to draw a battle line in what he considers a “culture war,” defending them against the American Civil Liberties Union and what he sees as a moral struggle for the country’s future.
The book also traces a 30-year history of litigation involving the Scouts — most of which they won — which Perry considers an attack on traditional values and faith in God.
Perry targets the ACLU as the primary force behind a leftist push to accept homosexuality and challenge Scouting’s duty to God.
http://www.rickperry.org/media/perrys-new-book-supports-boy-scouts-attacks-aclu
. He’s a runner and triathlete.
. He is an outdoorsman who enjoys hunting and fishing.
. He plays the drums. At a January 2005 inaugural party in Washington, he played with ZZ Top in front of 2,000 people
. Perry has Romney’s looks without the other baggage.
Raised on a ranch. Has hair. 6’ tall- presidential (especially after Obama)
. Perry knows he was wrong for pushing the vaccine (although there was always an opt out) and the TTC.
But if that is the worst he has done, I can live with it.
I JUST WANT TO WIN THIS THING!
Americans WILL get it:
Better looking
Better record
Rick Perry for President.
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Check out this site which contains official statements regarding Rick Perry by fellow politicians and scholars(both Democrats and Republicans) have had to say about Rick Perry:
http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/rick-perry-for-president-in-2012.html
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
What do you say to that??
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Check out this site which contains official statements regarding Rick Perry by fellow politicians and scholars(both Democrats and Republicans) have had to say about Rick Perry:
http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/rick-perry-for-president-in-2012.html
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
What do you say to that??
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Rush has not and will not endorse perry and he has said as of yesterday that
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BUT HE DID SAY PERRY WAS HIS DREAM CANDIDATE:
.Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh-on-the-record-3/
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This Perry trashing comes from the Ron ‘truther’ Paul nuts,
Debra Medina sour grapers and the resident FR Libs.
. Check out what fellow politicians (both Democrats and Republicans) have had to say about Rick Perry:
http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/rick-perry-for-president-in-2012.html
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
FReepers, trust your Conservative icons and the experts.
. Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor- and so did Nugent.
Sarah just restated the other day she likes Perry
.Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh-on-the-record-3/
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This Perry trashing comes from the Ron ‘truther’ Paul nuts,
Debra Medina sour grapers and the resident FR Libs.
. Check out what fellow politicians (both Democrats and Republicans) have had to say about Rick Perry:
http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/rick-perry-for-president-in-2012.html
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
. Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor- and so did Nugent.
Sarah just restated the other day she likes Perry
.Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh-on-the-record-3/
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The list is growing.
Thanks!
Uh, did Ronald Reagan have "crossover appeal"?
Well, yes, he did. In fact, more "crossover appeal" than any Republican candidate has ever exhibited.
Remember "Reagan Democrats"...???
And what, exactly, was the source of his "crossover appeal"?
He was a conservative!
Forcing CHILDREN to take untested drugs for reasons
not all of them need it IS CRIMINAL.
Gardasil Perry is a RINO who acted criminally
and should be brought to justice with everyone else
that imposed RomneyCARE and ObamaCARE.
This Perry trashing comes from the Ron ‘truther’ Paul nuts,
Debra Medina sour grapers and the resident FR Libs.
Freepers, don’t you think it more sensible to trust what the Conservative icons have to say about Perry?
. Sarah Palin threw her endorsement to Rick Perry for governor- and so did Nugent.
Sarah just restated the other day she likes Perry
.Rush said that Perry is his dream candidate.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/rush-limbaugh-on-the-record-3/
Don’t you think it more sensible to trust what numerous politicians and scholars have said about Rick Perry than some haters on FR?
VISIT THIS SITE
Read the official statements of dozens of Perry’s fellow politicians and scholars (both Democrats and Republicans) have had to say about Rick Perry:
http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/rick-perry-for-president-in-2012.html
All (including Democrat opponents) have called him a staunch Conservative, and not one of the dozens issuing opinions has mentioned the vaccine or TTC.
Apparently they don’t consider these things an issue.
They DID mention Perry threatening to secede from the unionas a strike against him. He did not issue such a threat- but I wouldn’t blame him if he did.
We don’t need Newt any more for anything. He’s off in another world now of the deluded and whipped now.
He also said if PALIN runs... she will be the candidate to beat... not perry.
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