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New Superconductor Wires Could Give Renewable Energy More Charge
http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/new-superconductor-wires-could-give-renewable-energy-more-charge.php ^

Posted on 09/09/2011 3:25:23 AM PDT by Jonty30

This could change everything you know about electrical power or computers.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: alteredtitle; chat; computers; electrity; sapphire; sapphirewires; science; sourcetitlenoturl; superconductor
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1 posted on 09/09/2011 3:25:27 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

cool.


2 posted on 09/09/2011 3:27:39 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Jonty30

“The new wire has the potential to push the price of renewable energy down by making it more economical to transmit electricity over long distances.”

Wanna bet our bills won’t go down?


3 posted on 09/09/2011 3:28:51 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Maybe not, but it could result in your cellphone being able to stay charged for a week or those football field -sized rooms that super computers tend to take up could possibly be reduced to something much more manageable.

Or those electric vehicles could be finally driven a decent distance with the air conditioning on. :)


4 posted on 09/09/2011 3:38:32 AM PDT by Jonty30
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Hey...

How come this wasn't developed at the Universities in Iran, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Gaza, or at a University in the West Bank?

Is it me, or am I just sarcastic :-)...

5 posted on 09/09/2011 3:46:27 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

And think of what would be lost if Israel ever lost a major war. :(


6 posted on 09/09/2011 3:47:57 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: nuconvert

Any wire that has to be cooled with liquid nitrogen isn’t likely to be used for long distance power transmission lines... That presents a few major problems of its own...


7 posted on 09/09/2011 3:48:16 AM PDT by DB
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To: taildragger

It sounds like to me, from the article, it was really developed in the US, that is the actual super conducting material. That Israel just added the cooling.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 3:50:05 AM PDT by DB
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To: Jonty30
Among the many other possible beneficiaries of the team's new creation that comes to mind would be the hyper-ambitious international DESERTEC organization, which seeks to harvest massive amounts of solar energy in deserts and transmit it to population centers, for example from Africa to Europe.

The TAU research team took the project a step farther by combining the fibers with a self-contained cooling system based on liquid nitrogen, which keeps the sapphire wire in a highly efficient superconducting state without overheating.


I guess someone's brother-in-law has a liquid nitrogen business and wants to go global.
9 posted on 09/09/2011 3:50:09 AM PDT by aruanan
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I think I see a potential problem.

>>> The TAU research team took the project a step farther by combining the fibers with a self-contained cooling system based on liquid nitrogen, which keeps the sapphire wire in a highly efficient superconducting state without overheating. <<<

And if the “cooling system” gets damaged, what then?


10 posted on 09/09/2011 3:51:45 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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Or those electric vehicles could be finally driven a decent distance with the air conditioning on. :)

Unlikely. Barely mentioned in the article is that these things are only superconducting at cryogenic temperatures. So unless you carry your cellphone in a flask of liquid nitrogen or your electric vehicle is going to carry around a large tank of liquid nitrogen (or a power intensive system to make liquid nitrogen on the spot) there won't be any benefit to using this material in electric vehicles. The supercomputers maybe.

11 posted on 09/09/2011 3:58:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: aruanan

Nitrogen has become so cheap to produce that you can generally waste it.

A generation ago, it used to cost hundreds of dollars for a litre. 10 years ago, you could buy a litre for about 5 bucks.

Now it’s just a few pennies.


12 posted on 09/09/2011 3:58:47 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: AFreeBird

Just imagine what the backup cooling system would have to look like, not to mention the power it would take.

It is like a cartoon I saw many years ago. Three “researchers were standing inside some lab admiring something on one’s wrist. They were amazed at the worlds smallest TV that one had produced. The caption at the bottom was

Gee, that is wonderful, but how do you change the channels?


13 posted on 09/09/2011 4:03:30 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Jonty30

Let’s see what the cost is. It isn’t the first time that superconducting technology has been proposed for use in the power grid, and it’s not clear what this sapphire wire brings to the table that older technologies didn’t. Many things are practicable that aren’t practical.


14 posted on 09/09/2011 4:06:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: AFreeBird

Something would have to watch the system temperatures and shut it off if temperatures neared the failure point.


15 posted on 09/09/2011 4:08:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Jonty30

Very cool. As in needing to be kept at liquid nitrogen temperature in order to work. Not sure how suitable for long-distance transmission it will be.


16 posted on 09/09/2011 4:08:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: mazda77

Must have been before the era of cheap electronic watches that had four or more buttons on the bezel.


17 posted on 09/09/2011 4:09:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Jonty30

“it could result in your cellphone being able to stay charged for a week”

Mine holds a charge for a week with only a couple of short calls a day use but I get your point.


18 posted on 09/09/2011 4:15:26 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Disgusted with the establishment GOP and their enablers.)
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To: nuconvert

Wanna bet our bills won’t go down?


Bingo. The GW crowd will make sure electricity prices continue to skyrocket. Its all about the $$, not the technology.


19 posted on 09/09/2011 4:26:47 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: DB

You mean like a heated pipeline from Alaska?


20 posted on 09/09/2011 4:33:41 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (***9/11*** Never Forget - Never Forgive ***9/11***)
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