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1 posted on 09/14/2011 1:00:53 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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Well! I’m offended she calls herself “a queer”!
*sarcasm in neutral, world just too weird to take anymore*


2 posted on 09/14/2011 1:06:44 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Sarah Palin 2012 "Not For Sale!")
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So, the argument here is that human beings are indeed sentient beings capable of making choices on how they wish to comport themselves through life. How novel.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 1:10:50 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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The twins data is d_mning - literally.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 1:16:56 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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Make no mistake — it's a life I chose

Anybody with a brain (which lets out most Liberals) knows this is the case.

"I was born this way" is just an excuse for abnormal and abhorrent behavior.

5 posted on 09/14/2011 1:18:09 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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“The Gay and Lesbian Medical Association warns that active homosexuals are at elevated risks of HIV/AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, a whole range of STDs such as syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, pubic lice, Human Papilloma Virus, and anal papilloma, and prostate, testicular and colon cancer”.

...this could be the reason that so many people don’t want any contact with with you folks!!


6 posted on 09/14/2011 1:18:35 PM PDT by albie
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The logical extension of “Gays are born that way” is that “People who engage in beastiality are born that way too” And “Pedophiles are born that way.” Even “Rapists are born that way” and why not “Drug users are born that way and “Thieves are born that way.”

Indeed Pedophiles are now pushing the APA to classify their condition as a “sexual orientation” the same way that the gays did.

A behavior is not justified by the number of people who choose it.

Cannibalism is not justified even though entire cultures have embraced it. We were not wrong to push our Christian values on such cultures.

Pedophilia and homosexual behavior is not justified no matter how many Hollywood moguls and congressmen embrace it.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 1:24:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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“Our public policy can freely be shaped by an honest look” - not as long as any Democrat is involved. Their first thought is always “How can I get votes and money from these suckers?”


9 posted on 09/14/2011 1:27:32 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Good article that restates what many of us have been saying for years: that homosexual behavior is a choice, not a biological imperative. The 'gay community' has persuaded politicians and judges to treat their sexual perversions as an inherent trait that cannot be changed and so, deserves some kind of special dispensation and laws elevating any harm done to someone practicing homosexual behavior to a 'hate crime', with harsher penalties, thus elevating a sexual perversion to special status in the eyes of the law, which is offensive to many Americans. The homosexual advocates have made 'gay marriage' their Holy Grail and that is becoming their Waterloo....a bridge too far, as it were. This overreaching is generating a backlash and with this lesbian woman stating the obvious in a left-wing national magazine (The Atlantic), the tide may well be starting to turn against the near-celebration of homosexual behavior by liberal politicians, judges and 'celebrities. Its about time sanity reemerged on this issue.
11 posted on 09/14/2011 1:35:50 PM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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I believe Gays ARE born that way. I recall, being in the 2nd or 3rd grade a few boys who were effeminate, hung around with girls, who were into dancing and not baseball, and who later grew up to be full-fledged homos.

I can’t buy that 7 and 8 year old boys chose to act effeminately at such an early age. They were genetically predisposed to be that way.


12 posted on 09/14/2011 1:36:06 PM PDT by Signalman
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Then they know what to do and schools don’t need to teach it.


13 posted on 09/14/2011 1:36:30 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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Show my a 3 year old homosexual. Boom, roasted!


14 posted on 09/14/2011 1:38:16 PM PDT by struggle
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Show me a 3 year old homosexual. Boom, roasted!


15 posted on 09/14/2011 1:38:31 PM PDT by struggle
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bkmk


16 posted on 09/14/2011 1:42:41 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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I think its can be either - genetic or cultural.

Look at prior societies in which homosexuality was pretty much common. The ancient Greeks, the Turks, the Imperial Romans, etc. It COULDN’T have been genetic in those societies as it was rare BEFORE it became common and became rare afterwards - the cultural factor here.

On the other hand, we ALL know people we had in elementary school and high school who were, “different”. Some studies have been done to indicate there ARE differences in brain wave patterns of SOME homosexuals.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 1:47:15 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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As Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council points out, rigorous studies of identical twins have now made it impossible to argue seriously for the theory of genetic determination. If homosexuality were fixed at birth, as the misguided thinking of homosexual activists goes, then if one twin is homosexual, the other should be as well. The "concordance rate" should be 100%.

"Born that way" does not necessarily equate to genetic inheritance.

Increasing evidence indicates that many of the subtle differences between people are created by how the intra-uterine environment expresses the genetic code of the DNA.

IOW, the DNA is the blueprint, but as we all know blueprints can be followed well or poorly by the actual builders. Many if not most birth defects are of this type, and it is likely many other "inborn" differences are too.

Personally I believe some though not all homosexuals are born with a strong tendency in that direction, as a result probably of hormonal fluctuations in the mother at critical points in the formation of the nervous system.

Which would make such tendency a form of birth defect, if you like. Which ought to really piss off the gay rights people.

20 posted on 09/14/2011 1:48:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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It’s not exactly nuture.. It’s recruitment.


29 posted on 09/14/2011 2:06:12 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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IIRC, Tammy Bruce says the same thing. I believe I read she said she was a lesbian “by choice”.


34 posted on 09/14/2011 2:19:18 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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if biology plays no part, why is it so easy to spot gay people.... even those who are supposedly in the closet? I worked for an airline where a lot of gay people worked. Sure seemed like most of them were biologically different.

Perhaps its mostly women that choose to be lesbian. From life experiences I tend to think that most women are somewhat bisexual. So perhaps for them, it is more of a choice which way they go.
36 posted on 09/14/2011 2:34:22 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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I’ve never cared whether they were born that way or not. Being born a certain way or another doesn’t automatically make one normal.


40 posted on 09/14/2011 2:58:37 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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They only claim to be “born that way” so they can be a victim group like blacks. It’s a “civil rights” thing.

Even the now-discredited study tha tis the basis for that didn’t really comp0letely support them. It tested sets of identical twins, at least one of whom was homosexual. It found that in 50 percent of the cases, the other one was too.

But if they’re born that way and identical twins are identical, tehn shouldn’t that number be 100 percent?

There may be a genetic predisposition, as there may be for such conditions as alcoholism, but that doesn’t mean that it necessarily plays out that way.


44 posted on 09/14/2011 3:21:51 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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