Posted on 09/25/2011 1:57:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
I appreciate your nice encouragement, but please accept my apologies if I was doing something to try to "convince" you or anyone else here.
I have tried to spend some time sharing some, as you called them even, honest feelings and even what I think is an honest situation in the state where I live. And it is encouraging that you mentioned a positive to understanding another side.
I wanted to let you know that "understanding" was all I really think I was wanting to do. I do not even know how I feel about what to do, how to handle it, and the more I see laws and legislation that blurs things, the more I realize there is so much more I don't even know or understand.
So I was not trying to convince but to open doors. (Now I did NOT say open borders, just open DOORS!) :)
Who knows, even some open doors might help us come a little closer to getting somewhere better than we are right now in the country.
But I was not trying to convince anyone, and if it came off that way in this thread, and I have indeed "done the opposite" ie turned people off, I apologize to any candidate I have hurt in the process, and I apologize for making anyone feel unworthy of their stand here.
Thank you for your sweet encouragement that I should re-take that IQ test. Perhaps I will when I'm in Heaven. I should get a perfect score then, whatever that is, and then I'll know that 40 wasn't worth fretting over to begin with.
Thanks for the good thought though.
Then maybe you can write us all a new Constitution.
No I am happy with the current one, the one that does not have a provision allowing courts to spend tax payers money. And no provision to legislate from the bench. And no provision to make up things that are not contained in the documents. The ones conservatives support, That is the one you dislike.
:-)
Why does that matter so much to you?
They meet residency requirements as the law is written; they aren't taking anything from anyone else; they're not being subsidized.
It does seem that you prefer that they did not go to college at all as you are putting a large financial obstacle in their path.
So, why don't you want these kids going to college?
If your parents brought you out of Mexico or Central America, etc, and you lived in the US for at least 3 years, how bad do you want to leave and go back?
Tell us what YOU would do to “solve” the illegal immigration problem given the same constraints that the feds have put on the States?
Forget stopping them at the border. The feds say no.
Forget tracking expired visas. The feds say no.
Forget arresting them and deporting them. The feds say no.
You’re stuck with them, so what do you do?
Sounds like a plan.
I like the Constitution.
It's you I don't like.
They can go to college in Mexico because they are Mexican citizens. They snuck in here along with their illegal alien parents and you want to reward this law breaking with cut rate college tuition
Deport a few thousand Mexican teenage hoodlum gangbangers who drain US society..... then I might listen to you on letting illegal aliens go to state universities and at bargain rates
Your illegal alien darlings are also getting affirmative action preferences to enter Texas public universities ahead of white and Asian kids. So according to you and Rick Perry these illegal aliens should get the cheaper instate tuition rates, they should get scholarships plus they should jump to the ahead of the line in front of native Texans who happen to be white and just happen to pay a lot more of Texas taxes than do Hispanics and illegal immigrants and legal immigrants.
Perry’s not running for governor; he’s running for President. His administratioin WILL be the ‘feds’ so he’s free to set any laws that he’ll be able to get through the House and Senate. But even with a conservative House and Senate, does anyone expect Perry to push for strict immigration reform? I have my doubts.
Here is what happens-—
Maria lives in Mexico and her son Jose is 14. She phones up her sister Betty who lives in Texas and says, “I hear Jose can get scholarships, affirmative action and stuff and only pay the instate rate on tuition like he is a real Texan. Betty can you take Jose in for a few years of high school until he goes to that fancy Texas college in Austin? I will send you money each month and tell everyone he is your son not mine”
So Jose is smuggled over the border and gets free high school education that the muy estupido Anglos pay for plus he gets bargain basement college tuition rates that the muy estupido Anglos pay for. Plus he scores affirmative action preferences and a Hispanics only scholarship like the kind the Bill Gates Foundation gives out.
Ain’t that the truth? If they’d inflate the border patrol instead of the IRS, we could control the border. But they need to spend, so they need to find the fines and fees.
Tax payer dollars have been thrown to Perry time and time again...the question is what has he done with it?....I wouldn't blame any Pres. for refusing Perry...he will not close his border and as we know has no plans to. He simply wants it protected so he can carry out the agenda he desires there.....which includes the use of illegals and legals from Mexico. Cheap labor goes with his co-operate deals. So it's throwing money to the wind to expect Perry will close the border there....
How about send them back to Mexico and let them build their own nation into something they could be proud of....like any would even consider such.
Simple...Build a reliable fence....clean out the trash along the border....secure it by giving the Border Patrol the right to shoot when they come over. Done deal.
Wherever the fence is stable and strong the illegal infilitration been cut 90%.
simple ..... address what started this discussion; don’t subsidize tuition for illegals.
There, that wasn’t so hard.
sheeeesh ..... what is with you Perry supporters? Your question what should we do with them after they graduate from H.S.; easy: Don’t give them a damned discount - that is what the “heartless” comment was about. Santorum challenged Perry on that and got no response.
Perry supporters: This is simple, pay out of state tuition.
If that is too confusing, I can’t help you, nobody can help you. You’re trying to complicate the issue. This all started with a challenge about in-state tuition, Perry went on some semi-coherent ramble about illegal children being drug kicking and screaming into Texas and so he wants to give them a discounted rate on tuition. Romney nor Santorum said he should deport them, they simply didn’t understand his position on in-state tuition .... and neither do I ... and apparently, neither do you.
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