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1 posted on 09/25/2011 1:57:45 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Good luck and I like you personally but I’m over Perry....another BUsh over mexicans

It’s not about deporting kids...it’s about them paying non resident tuition

I watched the debate....sad

Palin is nuttier than hell if she doesnt get in now if she wants it

Perry just opened the door wide for her and then threw himself under his own bus as a courtesy.....and I was prepared to support him
With Obamas numbers and our frontrunners having zero confection to the base it will never get any better for her


2 posted on 09/25/2011 2:06:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (,FURP....that was easy)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There is no hiding from the fact that signing and defending the Texas Dream Act then calling those who don’t approve “heartless” hurt him badly.

And there is no going back after ascerting such a firm belief in the act.


3 posted on 09/25/2011 2:14:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Educating them gets them working and contributing to the state’s treasury faster, and is more meaningful than letting them sit on the sidelines.”

For an article that claims to set the record straight, here is one Big Lie.

The fact of the matter is that if they are illegal and they graduate from a Texas college, they are still an illegal alien and cannot legally gain employment in the US.

Would you like me to point out the other BS in your article?


4 posted on 09/25/2011 2:19:20 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“By refusing to enforce current immigration law, the Obama administration has made life for border states unbelievably difficult.”

If the writer of your article believes that the Obama administration was the first to refuse to enforce immigration laws, he is completely out of touch with reality.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 2:24:43 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The more you pro-illegal Perry supporters post, the more you are rightly turning the majority of GOP voters against him as a presidential candidate.

You’re just helping to get the truth/message out and hastening voters coming to a sound decision against him as a candidate.

Thank you.


12 posted on 09/25/2011 2:37:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TexasFreeper2009; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; ...
Let’s take in-state tuition for illegals to its logical conclusion. If you support in-state tuition for illegal aliens, then:

1. Would you support giving them work visas after they graduate, so that their education isn’t wasted?
2. If so, would you then support giving them Green Cards (permanent residency), which would lead to citizenship, so that they won’t have to go home to lands they barely remember?
3. If so, should those whose parents couldn’t afford to send them to college get the same privileges as those who went to college? Should we give US citizenship to anyone who’s brought here below the age of 18 and goes to school in the US for three years?

Then there's this...

Federal law passed in 1996 prohibits illegal aliens from receiving in-state tuition rates at public institutions of higher education. Specifically, Section 505 of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (Title 8, Chapter 14, Sec. 1623(a)) states: "an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident."

14 posted on 09/25/2011 2:42:36 AM PDT by South40 (2012 matchup.... CAIN vs UNABLE?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Another Republican, considered a RINO today, did mass deportations. Know his name?


16 posted on 09/25/2011 2:46:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Too bad Perry couldn’t explain this during the debate.


17 posted on 09/25/2011 2:46:19 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I loved that part about where "he didn't care what their last name was" - a clear suggestion that all of us who are strongly concerned about the flood of illegal foreigners are just "racists".

Then Perry suggests that we "just don't have a heart".

No, we're just still looking for an honest man or woman who understands the seriousness of the situation and has a serious plan for dealing with it.

Perry isn't that guy. He's just another unctuous self-serving politician with a fluffy poodle haircut.

18 posted on 09/25/2011 2:46:56 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I always love the way candidates who live nowhere near a border state can prance out and attack as “unrealistic” somebody who has been governor of the biggest border state of all. He’s also dealing with the immigration problems there in a way that seems to have the support of the people of Texas, since out of 181 legislators, only 4 voted against this plan.

I think he should have defended it better, but he probably was unprepared for the “spittle flying,” hatred-filled attacks over a question of state policy.


21 posted on 09/25/2011 3:24:21 AM PDT by livius
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Some poster here said Perry threw himself under the bus. It seems to me that The United States of America has thrown TEXAS under the bus.

Our country, as Constitutionally required of the federal government, has not protected our borders. Our country has allowed illegal immigrants into our state, our cities, our towns. Not THEIRS, but ours.

We have had to take our own state money, OUR state money, and put towards doing federal government work to do as much as we can, taking money from our own state’s budget to lessen the damage our country has permitted to happen to us. Has any other state taken money out of THEIR state budget to put towards our Texas border security? No, they should not have had to, but neither should we. But we did. We took money we could have used for what we SHOULD have used it for in our state to at least do something to protect ourselves since our country would not do it.

Perhaps we would have benefited from more than what we could do ourselves, but then again, it wasn’t even our Constitutional job to begin with. It was our country who was supposed to protect us to begin with. It DIDN’T.

Our country has not given Texas any legal right to deport, even though our country has FORCED all these illegal immigrants upon us, and now we are forced to keep them. Put ‘em on the streets to create crime in our Texas cities and towns? Well, what do you expect? We are not allowed by law to deport them!

Oh, but it OUR streets you all will put them out on. Our TEXAS streets where our TEXAS children, the legal ones I’m talking about, won’t be free to go outside our home doors because of those illegal immigrants YOU GAVE US which you now tell us to throw out on the streets here in Texas. Oh, did I tell you yet WE CAN NOT DEPORT. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO. Oh, I did tell you. Perhaps you just forgot... AGAIN.

So we have them here, among us, and you know what... we would like to have a safe life here too in Texas. We don’t want them on our streets with nothing but cause to commit crimes upon Texans.

It would then seem like the only recourse we have is to round them all up and put them in our jails, and take care of them in our jails (and in all the other jails we’ll have to build now for all those millions of illegals you let in). Thanks alot, dear country. How much tax money will THAT cost us then? Does our country even CARE we have to do that? Do they CARE our country has thrown us under the bus and then made it worse by making us use tax-payer dollars of our own to put them in our jails and prisons?

Thanks a lot people.

Thanks a WHOLE lot for throwing Texas under YOUR bus and THEN chastising and punishing us because we are trying to do the best we could while you all drove all over us with your bus over and over and over again.

Next time, just protect us, please. You haven’t done so yet.


22 posted on 09/25/2011 3:31:12 AM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving up so many whoppers.)
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A sheriff in most counties can deputize citizens. That’s how you can do a mass deportation. The legally residing, law abiding citizens can be requested to help find, document, and deport the illegals. It would be very cost effective to use volunteers.

Once it’s started in earnest, the rest will self deport. Build the Israeli style border wall behind them and tell them, if we want you, we will call you.


25 posted on 09/25/2011 3:43:09 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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“If they were brought there by parents who were illegal—how is that the child’s fault? Is Romney ready to charge those children with crimes? Mass deportations? Even Romney has not pledged to go that far.”

Um...if a man steals, should we allow him to keep the money if he promises to spend it on his kids?

And no, Romney isn’t willing to deport illegals - but I am. Of course, according to Perry, that is because I’m a hate-filled Mexiphobic bigot...


26 posted on 09/25/2011 3:45:17 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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Even Romney has not pledged to go that far.

and that's part of the reason real conservatives aren't thrilled with him either. Rick Perry sees a path to citizenship for illegals so I don't see a path to the republican nomination for him. call me heartless.

27 posted on 09/25/2011 3:47:32 AM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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Perry, you need to show you understand my view without calling me heartless. Voice some strong ideas you support. Tell me what views I have which are not heartless.


29 posted on 09/25/2011 3:56:47 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: TexasFreeper2009

We have a set of rules set in place for a foreigner to become an American citizen. Millions through history have followed these rules to become legal citizens and have paid the price in time and effort to do so. They are proud citizens and assimilate into our society and obey the laws, language and customs of their new country. They have sacrificed to do so.

Now, we have criminals who say “to hell with law...who needs it.” The vermin come across our border like a flow of lemmings falling over a cliff. Milk and honey (crime and welfare) await for their picking once here. They bring their families and children with them and once here breed and produce more children like “spitting out wet watermelon seeds.” Free of cost of course.

Now, they (along with Politicians) want to go ahead of the line in the legal immigration process and bypass the need to actually comply with the immigration laws so that they can get the “milk and honey” without the fear of being deported.

Law is Law! It does not matter what age you are for the law applies to ALL regardless as to age. When they illegally crossed the border, both parents and children broke the law and need to pay the consequences. In many cases, the “children” were old enough to know damn well what they were doing.

Furthermore, how the hell did these “children” get into school without a Social Security number? Strange huh? Well, they were certainly breaking the law to get one!

How about Mommy and Daddy (if they knew who he was?) How the hell did they go to public school and blindly turn an eye to the fact that it was very apparent that the child and parents could barely speak English or none at all?

We must package up the whole illegal family and ship them back to Mexico (or where ever they came from) and give them the opportunity to apply LEGALLY for citizenship in our country like millions of law abiding, tax paying, and patriotic (new) Americans before them. No cutting in line.

This coddling of illegals without reprisals is killing our American heritage and society. We are watching another invasion of our country by illegal (and legal) Moslems (yes, that’s the original spelling) and their total disrespect of our culture and ways.

The United States is dying from a cancer that is eating it from the inside out...and that cancer is called illegal immigration and political immigration.

I will be dead and gone when it dies but it will surely die, for the medicine of law has been snatched from it’s citizens by Politically Correct government and politicans, and without it can’t be cured.

Rick Perry is one of those politicians who withholds that medicine along with others. He thinks with his heart...not his head.

Yesterday, I removed the bumpers stickers from my vehicles that supported Perry. They stated “Perry 2012 Be proud to be American Again.” I thought we had the one that would restore the American way but it was blatantly apparent that he was trolling for the Mexican vote all along and worse yet, stood up spoke his piece for illegals to get a piece of the American pie without any fear of being deported or being punished for breaking the law. That did it! As one old crusty lady politician in Texas once said of George Bush, “stick a fork in him, he’s done.”

Perry is done!


30 posted on 09/25/2011 4:12:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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Until the govt quits rewarding illegal behavior we will have no end to it.


32 posted on 09/25/2011 4:19:14 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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There is nothing to set straight and there is nothing wrong with deporting illegals, they have broken the law. There I am still a heartless american.


33 posted on 09/25/2011 4:20:59 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Why is it every progressive gives us the false choice of the current out of control border OR mass deportations. Enforce the employment laws on the books, end sanctuary cities, end benefits other than basic medical (i.e. first aid) and you’ll achieve SELF DEPORTATION. Couple that with real security and in a generation you’ll have a viable country again. No more pressing #1 for English.


34 posted on 09/25/2011 4:22:28 AM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Fact: “Kids” going to college are adults.
Fact: Unless born here, children of illegal aliens are illegal aliens.
Fact: Anybody born in the US is a US citizen, so only their state residency determines tuition rates.
Fact: Many Mexican families send their 13-15 year old kids to live with aunts, uncles, brother, sister, or cousins in the US so they can get into a US high school and then into college.
Fact: Once they are old enough to go to college, they are old enough to be deported and go back home to wherever they were born.


35 posted on 09/25/2011 4:22:59 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner (Don't wait, join/donate now to restore the US: http://www.organize4palin.com/)
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