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EPA’s greenhouse gas science didn’t follow its own peer review procedure, Inspector General says
Hotair ^ | 09/28/2011 | Tina Korbe

Posted on 09/28/2011 9:17:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

We already live in a country that “orders us” not to go to certain places even if they pose no security risk to self.

What is happening to the so-called right to bear arms?

What has become of the Fourth and Fifth Amendment? X-ray machines at airports, camera’s everywhere...

You have a government telling you what you should eat, probably feeding your kids in school.

This government will tell you what light bulb you “will” use and they nudge you to buy certain cars.

They will define what free speech is for you, tell you that you’re not licensed to do certain jobs, they will dictate who you hire and mandate what cooking oil you use, set the rates you can charge for services, impose regulatory fees or taxes they feel appropriate on their own through internal adminstrative policy making...

Freedom in America is a hollow word thrown around by demagogue politicians and the idiotic that have no clue that they already live in a slimmed down version of the DDR. The only difference is that this is a slightly softer version of a tyranny and the fences and walls are more subtle. When in Iraq I asked people if they thought they were “free,” surprisingly they thought so. There is this miss-belief that people elsewhere feel oppressed and that they seek our version of “freedom.” Truth is, freedom is a perceptive phenomenon that we perceive through a cultural filter, and we today are not free in the sense our founding fathers perceived and intended it to be. The point is that the traditional meaning of freedom has been perverted and we are already far removed from even what the Bill of Rights were intended to prevent or protect us from.


21 posted on 09/28/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by Red6
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Thanx for the ping amagi !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

22 posted on 09/28/2011 12:06:49 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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...we today are not free in the sense our founding fathers perceived and intended it to be.

If you want to know how oppressive the nanny state is, you need to go someplace where they don't have one.

Then you see.

23 posted on 09/28/2011 2:29:10 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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Peer review? We don’t need no steenking peer review.


24 posted on 09/28/2011 4:19:25 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Apparently they skipped a step or two along the
way to getting the conclusions they desired.


25 posted on 09/28/2011 9:51:54 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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When I was in school during the 1970s I had a science teacher that took his summer school science classes to the Carbon Glacier at Mount Raineer every year to survey it. At that time the glacier was advancing because the world was in a cooling trend that started in the 1940s. We were concerned that the world could be entering a new ice age caused by the particulate from factories and internal combustion engines.

Supposedly Carbon Glacier has retreated slightly in the decades since I was in school. When my wife and I visited it last year we didn't have any survey equipment or the records that were kept by my long retired science teacher. I couldn't tell that it had retreated at all.

I have no doubt that many of the glaciers around this part of the country have retreated. From the time I was in school until ten years ago the world was in a cyclic warming trend. Our house is located in a spot that was covered with a thousand feet of ice just 10,000 years ago, a blink of an eye in geologic time. It would be really great if these global warming stories like the one I read yesterday in the Seattle PI about glaciers retreating could be accompanied with pictures taken over a period of time, taken at the same time each year, along with survey information.

I wouldn't hold my breath while waiting for pictures and actual data... When I was in school we went to the mountain and were actually shown how to measure the glaciers ourselves... Now we good children are expected to believe what we are told because of faith not because of data or our own observations. It seems very sad to me actually. Those who question, those who want to measure, those who want to see where and how others data was collected are now attacked and ridiculed.

One should ask themselves if name calling and ridicule actually are a substitute for scientific observation and method. In a recent study from Yale University... “Professor Dan M. Kahan and his team surveyed 1540 US adults and determined that people with more education in natural sciences and mathematics tend to be more skeptical of AGW climate science.” What a surprise... these democrats who believe that a supposed consensus is a subtitute for reason and scientific method are less educated. Who'd a think it?

http://www.icecap.us/

26 posted on 09/29/2011 10:31:48 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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