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Why Rick Perry's Not Quite Dead, Yet
Townhall.com ^ | November 12, 2011 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 11/12/2011 9:26:22 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: altura

>>Agree with everything in your post except the last sentence.<<

I hope you’re right. I also hope Romney can actually convince me that he won’t just settle for “improving” Obamacare, instead of repealing it, or completely defunding it.

That’s my problem. A Republican Congress, faced with a President Obama, will just defund it. But faced with a President Romney, they will almost certainly get talked into tweaking it, especially if the Senate Dems filibuster a repeal. I just don’t think Romney will defund it; he’s got too much invested in Romneycare, and will be tempted to “fix” what’s wrong with Romneycare at the national level, i.e., he’ll tweak Obamacare, which would be a disaster and we’d lose any chance of getting rid of it.

Obamacare is a make or break issue for me. We keep it; we’re toast as a country, because it will bankrupt us, while imperiling our health simultaneously.


21 posted on 11/12/2011 10:28:48 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Kaslin; shield; Cincinatus' Wife; casinva; smoothsailing; Katarina; alicewonders; TexMom7; ...
 

 

22 posted on 11/12/2011 10:30:43 AM PST by potlatch
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To: potlatch

Surprise surprise folks...Perry has laid his foundation and his blitz has begun. Perry was ask a question about his poll numbers...and he said well it took a while for my wife to warm up to me and marry me. What a GREAT ANSWER to that question.


23 posted on 11/12/2011 10:35:57 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: All

As long as I’m at it, here’s a sane plan that could be substituted for the insane individual mandate (my own idea, held, in print, since 1993.) This idea, by the way, would be incorporated within a system of private health insurance, not a government plan.

All the government would have to do is establish a grace period during which virtually everyone, whether wheelchair bound, on dialysis, etc., could sign up for an individual plan as a Fully Insurable Individual. As long as we sign up during the grace period, premiums would be the same as for any other individual.

Fail to sign up during the grace period and you lose the status of a Fully Insurable Individual and any insurance company could lawfully require a physical and could exclude any pre-existing conditions while charging the normal premium they charge everyone else of your age and sex, or require a rider and an additional premium associated with that rider.

When a person turns, say, 19, they would enter an automatic 6 months grace period during which they would be a Fully Insurable Individual. Fail to get insured during that time - lose that status and be subject to a physical.

If, after losing the status, one eventually passed a physical later and was given a clean policy, they would re-acquire the status of a Fully Insurable Individual (FII).

I won’t go into any more of the details here, unless someone wants me too, but essentially the Fully Insurable Individual status would replace the need for an individual mandate, and would allow the private insurance market to function properly. It would also provide a convenient avenue for government to play a role in ensuring that those too down-on-their-luck to maintain coverage could still have insurance, by subsidizing the cost of the most basic policy available so that they could retain their FII status.


24 posted on 11/12/2011 10:42:41 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Kaslin

Well, a comeback sure doesn’t seem likely, but then again, who expected Gingrich to be where he is now? It’s a wacky primary season, to put it mildly.

But I saw Rasmussen yesterday saying Perry has a 25% approval rating, which is about as bad as it gets. Cain was even at 37%, I believe. The only reason I took note is because I recall as Sarah Palin was hovering between 38-42% approval, posters around here were saying it was proof how very hated she was in the public, and why she shouldn’t even get the slightest notion to run. Oookay.


25 posted on 11/12/2011 10:50:48 AM PST by greene66
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To: Reeses

NO!!!!


26 posted on 11/12/2011 10:52:10 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I had never seen the word you used in your post before...here’s the definition for others if necessary.

Roting is a stoner slang form of the word Rotating aptly named for the “spinning” sensation inebriation can cause.


27 posted on 11/12/2011 10:57:14 AM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Kaslin

Ahhh...hold on there, Tex...


28 posted on 11/12/2011 11:28:27 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: South40
LMAO


29 posted on 11/12/2011 11:29:50 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: potlatch

No one will have to teach Governor Perry how to salute .

Anybody else see Barry on the USS Carl Vinson yesterday ?
I swear , at first , I thought he was talking on a cell phone
when he appeared on the flight deck-
that’s how pathetic his salute looked.
Then he was all mixed up as to where he should stand
in regards to the Colors
and he barely mumbled the words
to the Star Spangled Banner.
Michelle couldn’t even be bothered to try.
When Barry addressed the military crowd on Veteran’s Day , before a basketball game..
( apparently Walter Reed and BAMC were closed )
he brought in politics and started talking about how
“ he got / forced / made “ ( something along those lines)
Congress to do something for veterans.
Click..I couldn’t take it.


30 posted on 11/12/2011 11:56:36 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Norseman

“As long as I’m at it, here’s a sane plan that could be substituted for the insane individual mandate (my own idea, held, in print, since 1993.) This idea, by the way, would be incorporated within a system of private health insurance, not a government plan.”

Perhaps I’m missing something, but this is not a mandate HOW? It mandates that insurers insure people at rates below actuarial break-even; it mandates that the Fully Insureable Individual make a decision within your timeframes.

You don’t defeat a bad idea by meeting it halfway. Given the ‘93 date, I’m guessing you cooked this up in response to Hillarycare. Others fought it tooth and nail and flushed the whole deal.

Perry: I’m a long time Texas Republican, but if Perry wins, it will be without my vote. If the press follows up on the Texas Enterprise Fund, they will find crony capitalism that the Occupy Whatever crowd has not the wit to discover.

I haven’t forgiven him for the Trans-Texas Corridor, as envisioned the largest eminent domain land-grab and transfer (to a Spanish Corp. no less)in American history.

Pardon me, he really is as dumb as he looks; smart enough to hire good handlers, but consider; Gov. of Texas and he forgets Dept of Energy? Gee, Texas has a huge interest in what?


31 posted on 11/12/2011 12:38:10 PM PST by barkeep (Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc)
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To: Reeses
Miss Me Yet?

Sorry, GWB, the answer is still NO! Like the old compromiser Everett Dirksen said of Tom Dewey at the 1952 convention, you led uis down the road to defeat!

32 posted on 11/12/2011 12:39:38 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Norseman

No, we can’t count on a Republican Congress to de-fund anything? Just what have they abolished since 1981? Was it the ICC, perhaps. Anything else?


33 posted on 11/12/2011 12:43:00 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

You’ve described Barry to a T, at least he didn’t say corpse-man again!


34 posted on 11/12/2011 1:24:56 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Electric Graffiti

lol!


35 posted on 11/12/2011 4:33:21 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: barkeep

>>Perhaps I’m missing something, but this is not a mandate HOW? It mandates that insurers insure people at rates below actuarial break-even; it mandates that the Fully Insureable Individual make a decision within your timeframes.<<

Two points: 1) It does not mandate that insurers insure below breakeven. They can set their rates anywhere they want. It’s a free market, not a government-mandated one. If they don’t want to participate, they don’t have to. (I would point out, regarding insuring pre-existing conditions, that this happens virtually every day, across the country, at all insurance companies, because when a new employee is hired and takes the family health insurance policy, the company group policy insures his/her family at the same rate as everyone else, even if they have a spouse or child with a significant health issue.)

2. Yes, the individual must make a decision within a time frame. But he’s not mandated to make the decision. He can take his chances if he wants. It’s not a mandate; it’s a rule of the game. There’s a difference.

And this would work. By the way, I ran on this platform for a state legislative office in 1992 (the same year Clinton won, pre-Hillary-Care, and wrote it up to get it out of my system in 1993, published it, and let it go...and yes, I lost, but it’s a good idea.)

If you want to criticize it, use logic, not semantics.


36 posted on 11/12/2011 6:14:53 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Theodore R.

>>No, we can’t count on a Republican Congress to de-fund anything<<

Up to now, you’re right. But if we get a Tea-Party-supported Congress in 2013, that could very well change. If it doesn’t, we’ll need to kick out a lot of Republicans.

My main point still stands. You have to de-fund the Left completely, or they will just burrow into their bureaucratic offices and wait us out. You have to throw them out of their offices and force them to join the private labor market (where most of them would probably have to wait tables or drive cabs...and I’m not too sure they’d be capable of driving cabs...)


37 posted on 11/12/2011 6:18:43 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: montag813

Perry did well in the Debate tonight from SC.


38 posted on 11/12/2011 7:09:44 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: montag813
"Rick Perry doesn't know he's dead!"

ROTFL-----now that's funny.

Betcha the voters in Texas know their governor is deader than a horse thief at the end of a rope.

LOL.

39 posted on 11/13/2011 7:34:38 AM PST by Liz
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