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Day Two of the Great VA GOP Meltdown
Red State ^ | 24th December 2011 | Moe Lane

Posted on 12/24/2011 8:20:24 AM PST by shield

For those coming in late, let me summarize*: both Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry have been excluded from the Virginia Republican primary by the Virginia GOP. This has placed the VA GOP in an awkward situation, given that: they have excluded the current national and Virginian front-runner from their own ballot; have currently no write-in option on the ballot; do have an open primary that anyone can vote in; and generally have created an environment peculiarly suited for conspiracy theories involving Mitt Romney (and ones that won’t contain the word ‘Mormon’ anywhere in their description, by the way). The current defenses to all of this are “rules are rules” and “any campaign that couldn’t follow them are by definition poor campaigns:” I will leave it to the individual reader to decide just how either argument will play in, say, Peoria; I am frankly of the opinion that the above defenses are well-suited towards reassuring Romney and/or Paul voters – and will do very little to persuade the other 60-65% or so of likely Republican primary voters.

But since I’m telling Mitt Romney what won’t help his situation, it kind of behooves me to tell him what might.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: commievirginia; frontrunner; gingrich; newtgingrich; perry; vagopcriminal; virginia; virginiagop; virginiaprimary; virginiasocialism
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1 posted on 12/24/2011 8:20:33 AM PST by shield
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; jonrick46; deepbluesea; TexMom7; potlatch; SunkenCiv; wolfcreek; BuckeyeTexan; ...
Perry Ping....

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2 posted on 12/24/2011 8:21:50 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield

LOL. So why wasn’t this a problem in 2008 or prior to that? Blaming this on the state of VA is pure crap. The candidates knew the rules and should have complied with them. Romney, Paul, and Obama met the requirements. Why couldn’t Perry and Gingrich? If you are serious candidate, this shouldn’t happen.


3 posted on 12/24/2011 8:24:49 AM PST by kabar
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4 posted on 12/24/2011 8:25:22 AM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - but Newt has a new book out real soon - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: shield

Has anyone asked, ‘How many of Romney’s signatures were disqualified?’.

This reeks, and if there is precedent for it on this scale - EXCLUSIVE OF DEMOCRAT EVENTS - please point it out.

That said, if I were in Virginia I would follow the ABR rule for the primary and without hesitation.


5 posted on 12/24/2011 8:27:13 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: kabar

“If you are serious candidate, this shouldn’t happen.”

If the GOP were a serious party, Obama wouldn’t have happened.


6 posted on 12/24/2011 8:28:52 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: kabar
LOL. So why wasn’t this a problem in 2008 or prior to that? Blaming this on the state of VA is pure crap. The candidates knew the rules and should have complied with them. Romney, Paul, and Obama met the requirements. Why couldn’t Perry and Gingrich? If you are serious candidate, this shouldn’t happen.

I'll tell you what's pissing me off. Why is the News Meida, FReepers and the blogs all saying "Newt and Perry" didn't make the ballot? The fact is, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman, Gingrich, and Perry ALL didn't make the ballot. And I'll happily tell you why they are only referencing two...because if you focus on all five , then the STANDARD becomes the story instead of Perry and Newt and the quest to make them appear incompetant.

7 posted on 12/24/2011 8:29:44 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: devolve

Pound sand. I hope you get your Obama back.


8 posted on 12/24/2011 8:30:09 AM PST by mmanager (Reagan Revolution + Republican Revolution = Bury Obama in 2012 - Go Newt!)
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To: Psalm 144
If the GOP were a serious party, Obama wouldn’t have happened.

I burst out laughing at that. You are dead on.

9 posted on 12/24/2011 8:31:07 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: devolve

What’s your (lame) point?


10 posted on 12/24/2011 8:31:15 AM PST by Lazamataz (Romney is the Pale Obama. That's all.)
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To: kabar; xzins
Blaming this on the state of VA is pure crap.

You're right. This is not the state's problem. It is a VIRGINIA GOP rule.

This is not a law. The State does not require the political parties to submit their candidate lists 3 1/2 months before the primary election. It is an in-house Virgina GOP rule. Which can and should be revised.

The RNC should decertify the Virginia GOP and refuse to recognize their delegates to the convention unless they amend the rule to conform with reality.

11 posted on 12/24/2011 8:31:40 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Lazamataz

I am guessing the poster wants Rev Al for President, Newt for VP.


12 posted on 12/24/2011 8:32:46 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: kabar

You are assuming that the insiders in charge in Virginia are honest, while I am assuming they are corrupt sob’s manipulating the rules to help their preferred butt boy Romney.

So, YES I am blaming the Virginia GOP insiders, who are trying to steal this primary and give it to Romney.


13 posted on 12/24/2011 8:33:14 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: kabar

I agree, and it seems a bit insulting that they didn`t put in the ground-game efforts to ensure their names would be on the ballot.


14 posted on 12/24/2011 8:34:27 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I’ve had my tiffs with Perry and Gingrich. But if the GOP in Virginia keeps to this, Romney may end up on the ballot, but there is no way, no way in Cowboy Hell, I’ll cast a vote for him. I’ll sit it out, and the VA GOP can rest assured that they re-elected Obama.


15 posted on 12/24/2011 8:35:28 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: P-Marlowe

VAs governor has, until this fiasco, been well regarded nationally..unlerss this gets fixed, and fats, he can forget ANY thoughts of the VP spot..


16 posted on 12/24/2011 8:35:37 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: P-Marlowe
The RNC should decertify the Virginia GOP and refuse to recognize their delegates to the convention unless they amend the rule to conform with reality.

Central rule over local rule? Changing the rules after the vote? Shouldn't the RNC check with Republicans in Virginia first? This sounds too much like a Democrat argument to me.

17 posted on 12/24/2011 8:35:58 AM PST by rhombus
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To: shield
Hey, I would rather vote for Newt than Mitt (Such a dilemma is akin to saying I would rather eat a one inch long dog turd instead of a two inch long dog turd).

But Newt knew the deadlines and so did the rest of the candidates. If they don't qualify then tough toenails. Either follow the fricking rules or get out of the game.

18 posted on 12/24/2011 8:36:53 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: kabar
The candidates knew the rules and should have complied with them. Romney, Paul, and Obama met the requirements. Why couldn’t Perry and Gingrich? If you are serious candidate, this shouldn’t happen.

In 1976, Reagan was unable to get on the ballot in PA or NY. Was he a serious candidate?
19 posted on 12/24/2011 8:37:30 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Before everyone jumps all over the gingrich campaign, here’s a legal and political analyst talking about Virginia’s primary process:

“Want a sense of how next-to-impossible this is? I know top-flight Virginia political consultants who turned down lucrative petition project contracts from presidential campaigns because they did not think it could be done.”

http://www.ashby-law.com/better-things-to-do/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2824644/posts


20 posted on 12/24/2011 8:37:36 AM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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