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Virginia GOP Will Require Voters to Sign 'Loyalty Oath'
ABC News ^ | 12/29/2011 | Elizabeth Hartfield

Posted on 12/31/2011 11:19:19 AM PST by katiedidit1

Less than a week after announcing that only two GOP presidential candidates qualified to appear on their ballot, the Republican Party of Virginia has adopted a new measure that may leave voters in the state scratching their heads: a loyalty oath.

On Wednesday the Virginia State Board of Elections approved a request from the Virginia GOP that will require voters to sign a loyalty oath in order to participate in the state’s presidential primary on March 6. A spokesman for the state’s election board tells ABC News that although some details are still in the works, voters wishing to cast a ballot must take the pledge.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: newt2012; rpv; va2012
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To: katiedidit1
This oath was just enacted on Weds. Convenient? dirty politics

Noooooo, they all knew the rules, if they can't organize.........yada, yada, yada.

I wan't Mayo on my cr@p sandwich, doesn’t look like I will be getting a choice of flavors.

21 posted on 12/31/2011 11:51:09 AM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: Longbow1969

BS. It is none of “the party’s” business who I vote for in the general election.


22 posted on 12/31/2011 11:52:38 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Longbow1969
You're keeping the Republican Republican candidates off the ballot and discouraging the Republican Republican voters from voting. Seems pretty easy to me ~ just cancel the primary. You don't intend to use the results ~ just shut 'er down.

Maybe I could help.

23 posted on 12/31/2011 11:53:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: freeangel
Methinks the Virg GOP just lost itself a heck of a lot of votes from people tho wish to think for themselves.

See, this is what I don't get. I understand in this instance it may be causing problems for Gingrich, and in my opinion Paul shouldn't be in the GOP primary anyway. Still, why shouldn't a political party ask/expect you to vote for it's eventual nominee if they are going to allow you to participate in their nomination process? You can think for yourself all you want, but you are not entitled to vote in the Republican primary is your not really a Republican.

The Republican party is a political party. They can choose their nominee however they want. If people don't like it they can form their own political party. If someone wants to be part of choosing a political party's candidate, why shouldn't the party expect that person to support the eventual nominee?

I'd like too see to it that Democrats and independents don't vote in GOP primaries. I think that influence in places like NH is exactly why RINO types like John McCain are able to win GOP nominations. Anything we can do to weed out non-Republicans from voting in our primaries seems like a net plus to me.

As far as I am concerned, the party should have worked to prevent Paul from being a GOP candidate anyway. He is not a conservative, and has already demonstrated he will quit the party and not endorse its eventual candidate. Paul is just using the GOP label because he knows no one would pay any attention to him with an (L) after his name.

24 posted on 12/31/2011 11:54:29 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: faucetman

Allen is a moral and ethical coward. That’s why a sex pervert beat him like an old rug.


25 posted on 12/31/2011 11:54:29 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: freeangel

It sounds really dumb to me to demand a loyalty oath.
When you enter the booth to vote in the general election, you go alone, and an oath I am forced to take is no oath at all. The only oath I will feel .to keep is one I make of my own free will.

Force me to take an oath and you can KMA


26 posted on 12/31/2011 11:56:23 AM PST by Venturer
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To: freeangel
The Virginia GOP is not only LOSING THE BASE, they are kicking them out.

This won't work in either the short run or the long run ~ and there won't be a long run for this crowd.

Did you see how they are giving up a Senate Seat as well as eventually Electoral College votes ~ these geeks aren't Republicans at all. Time to purge the state committee!

27 posted on 12/31/2011 11:57:41 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: svcw
BS. It is none of “the party’s” business who I vote for in the general election.

Then why do you want to vote in a Republican primary? Your not entitled to do so. Political party's can exclude those who don't share its goals. If you don't like it, then make your own party and choose your own nominee however you'd like.

Again, in this particular case it seems like this isn't working out since Ron Paul the kook is on the ballot and the guy who I am supporting, Gingrich, is not. All I am getting at is, why shouldn't a political party insist that those who help nominate its candidate actually be a supporter of the party? I don't want Democrats and independents voting in GOP primaries. It is watering down conservative vote percentages in states like NH and allowing RINO's like McCain to win primaries they otherwise shouldn't if only Republicans were voting.

28 posted on 12/31/2011 11:59:13 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Do you think that nutjob racist senile goober is going to be our nominee?

I got a bridge to sell you then.


29 posted on 12/31/2011 11:59:59 AM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: katiedidit1

Does my oath count if I’m laughing while signing it?


30 posted on 12/31/2011 12:09:17 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Ding! Frog's done!)
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To: muawiyah

I hate to say this but the point of the oath is going to be moot too. Did you see this yet?

Virginia Attorney General Intervenes in GOP Primary Ballot Dispute
foxnews.com ^ | 12/31/2011 | Carl Cameron

Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:43:16 PM by TBBT

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is intervening in the Virginia presidential primary dispute and plans to file emergency legislation to address the inability of most Republican presidential candidates to get their name on the ballot, Fox News has learned. Only Mitt Romney and Ron Paul qualified for the Virginia primary, a contest with 49 delegates up for grabs. The failure of other candidates to qualify — notably Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry — led to complaints that the 10,000-signature requirement is too stringent. Cuccinelli, who is a Republican, shared the concerns. “Recent events have underscored that our system is deficient,” he said in a statement. “Virginia owes her citizens a better process. We can do it in time for the March primary if we resolve to do so quickly.” Cuccinelli’s proposal is expected to state that if the Virginia Board of Elections certifies that a candidate is receiving federal matching funds, or has qualified to receive them, that candidate will upon request be automatically added to the ballot. Two former Democratic attorneys general are also backing the move, along with a former Democratic state party chairman and a former Republican state party chairman. Former state Attorney General Tony Troy called the Virginia process a “legal and constitutional embarrassment.”


31 posted on 12/31/2011 12:09:24 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: muawiyah
Yeah, democracy is bad therefore no candidates should be on the list who might actually represent the will of the people.

Aren't you confusing legally mandated local, state and federal elections with political primaries? As far as I know, political party's are under no obligation to be democratic at all. If the Republican party wanted to choose their nominee in a smokey room somewhere they could. Party's actually often have super delegates that could, in theory, completely override the will of the primary voters in a close contest.

Again, the point is, you do not have a right to vote in the GOP primary. The Republican party decides how it's nominees are chosen and, in general, keeping Democrats, independents and those with no intention of voting for the eventual party nominee from participating in the process seems a worthy goal to me.

As I said, in this case the process is already kind of broken because goofball Ron Paul is one of our candidates even though he will never support the actual nominee. In the future, I'd like to see people like Ron Paul who are drawing largely Democrats and independents into the GOP primary process excluded from running in the Republican party. He is a libertarian, let him run in that party where he actually belongs.

32 posted on 12/31/2011 12:09:46 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

The party can make whatever rules in the primary they want, in the general it’s not their business.


33 posted on 12/31/2011 12:12:58 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: katiedidit1

I’ll be glad to take an oath to not send and more money to the GOP until they purge themselves of the idiot who came up with this plan and the stupid lemmings that supported it.

I will in no way be obligated to support the socialist candidate they are trying to force on the electorate.


34 posted on 12/31/2011 12:13:43 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: svcw
The party can make whatever rules in the primary they want, in the general it’s not their business.

Agreed. And obviously a loyalty oath is no way binding at all. It is just an "honor system" thing that is used to discourage non-Republicans from voting in Republican primaries. As VA has no party registration, my guess is the party is just trying to discourage Democrats, independents and libertarians from voting in GOP primaries when they have no intention of actually voting for the eventual nominee (Ron Paul will not be the nominee).

35 posted on 12/31/2011 12:16:50 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: katiedidit1

An oath taken under duress is non-binding, especially when I will vote as I please.


36 posted on 12/31/2011 12:17:50 PM PST by GingisK
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To: CainConservative

Huh? Of course I don’t....


37 posted on 12/31/2011 12:20:59 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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To: katiedidit1

I love that the article neglects to point out that the Democrats did the same thing in 2008.


38 posted on 12/31/2011 12:23:54 PM PST by denydenydeny (The more a sys<tem is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Longbow1969

You mean like McCain? Like Romney?


39 posted on 12/31/2011 12:56:06 PM PST by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: katiedidit1

VA GOP sounds like a cult. Sad.


40 posted on 12/31/2011 12:59:16 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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