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Exclusive: U.S. Air Force to halt Northrop unmanned plane
Reuters ^ | January 24, 2012 | By Andrea Shalal-Esa

Posted on 01/24/2012 6:18:34 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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21 posted on 01/24/2012 8:05:00 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: F15Eagle

The SR-71 program was killed under Billy Jeff Bent-one. Cheney had nothing to do with it.


22 posted on 01/24/2012 9:38:00 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: F15Eagle; Focault's Pendulum
Having a pilot (or meat sack) is very expensive and limits the capability/maneuverability of the air machine.

Plus, the risk of losing pilot to either death or capture has impacts on decisions on when and how to employ. Sometimes the risks are accepted, sometimes they are not. Depends on a lot of factors.

An unmanned or even better yet unmanned autonomous machine has tremendous flexibility. If it crashes you throw a JDAM or cruise missile or anything handy at it to destroy the wreckage. (Have no idea why this did not happen in Iran...so I assume there is more to the story than has leaked.)

24 posted on 01/24/2012 9:53:24 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well...Well...Well...As an ancient leatherneck I am mighty glad that the BAMs are back...


25 posted on 01/24/2012 9:56:40 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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More treason by the halfbreed communist who now rules us...
27 posted on 01/24/2012 10:04:04 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Fair points, all.

My core point is that manned recon is expensive and as soon as technology is there, the better. Plus a low observable gives the option of surveillance and not just reconnaissance.

29 posted on 01/24/2012 10:21:26 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Here is a fact about Northrop. That company is a bloated, insanely politically correct and horribly mismanaged leviathan that is sucking America dry. If any of you hold their stock, dump it post-haste.

That company is now a government sponsored social experiment gone wrong. Northrop Grumman divisions all over the planet are reducing their work forces by 40-50%. Women and minorities are last to go—at any cost—and they make no secret of it. I fully support women and minority hiring-if they can do the job. Sadly, many cannot.

Anyone know what the phrase “lass pass sic mont” means?

Sad state of affairs at that place.

I’ve seen it first hand. Their MANAGEMENT can’t read or write, but if they are in a protected class they have lifelong job guarantees.


32 posted on 01/25/2012 6:25:47 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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Wasn’t aware of all that. Thanks.


33 posted on 01/25/2012 8:53:01 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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NOT an F-101 Voodoo, an F-104 Starfighter

You may be right about the F-104 connection, but the first gen U-2 was built with basic sailplane technology (example: ailerons mounted on piano hinge stock). I have read that they were only expected to have 20 hours operational life. Of course, the later gen TR-1s were much more advanced.

36 posted on 01/25/2012 12:23:25 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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The Global Hawk was very inflexible, couldn’t carry some of the latest sensor technologies that the U2 can, less capable (lower payload than U2) and had a lower operating altitude than the U2. It could only reach its maximum ceiling at the end of its mission profile when it was essentially out of fuel.

This is why the U2 program was kept beyond its initial retirement date. The USAF kept the GH on life support, giving Northrop an extreme amount of latitude and time in getting the aircraft up to its claimed capability.

Northrop couldn’t do it.

The GH just didn’t meet expectations.


37 posted on 01/25/2012 12:36:52 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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Thanks for the info.

JJ


38 posted on 01/25/2012 2:26:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Romney=Gun Grabber.)
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To: starlifter
Plus, the risk of losing pilot to either death or capture has impacts

So does losing an intact drone, complete with sensors and all software and firmware.

Don't tell me what "we're gonna do" if one goes down. One went down, we lost it, they've got it, end of story.

You can't fix treason with a sneakier camera. Rome had the mightiest walls in the world (except for Constantinople) in 410 A.D. ..... then some Billy Jeff Obozo type gave the Ostrogoths the key to the back door. Swell.

39 posted on 01/25/2012 3:34:25 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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40 posted on 01/25/2012 3:35:03 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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