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Exclusive: U.S. Air Force to halt Northrop unmanned plane
Reuters ^ | January 24, 2012 | By Andrea Shalal-Esa

Posted on 01/24/2012 6:18:34 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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To: F15Eagle; Focault's Pendulum
SR71 required JP-7 which required special tankers able to have tanks of JP-7 and their own supply of JP-4 back then.

Guy I talked to once told me about JP-7. It was bad news. Stuff was day-glo green and highly caustic and poisonous. Very stringent handling required.

42 posted on 01/25/2012 4:00:21 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Guy I talked to once told me about JP-7. It was bad news. Stuff was day-glo green and highly caustic and poisonous. Very stringent handling required.

Guy wasn't talking about JP-7 but rather triethylborane (or "Teb"). JP-7 has a very high ignition temp, Teb was used as a catalyst/igniter to get it burning.


44 posted on 01/25/2012 4:19:33 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: F15Eagle
To rephrase, the U-2 was eventually re-designated TR-1 and then back to U-2 as I recall.

Sort of. When the U-2R (much larger plane than the earlier A-D versions from the late 1950s) was put back into production in the early 1980s for use as a tactical recce platform the new-builds were designated TR-1s while the older ones (from the 1960s) retained their "U-2" designation.

In the early 1990s the TR-1 fleet were given the U-2 designation to get the fleet using common nomenclature.
45 posted on 01/25/2012 4:30:31 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: The Antiyuppie
but it was built in an era where money was no object because there was no alternative,

Back when entitlement spending didn't account for ~70% of the budget.

47 posted on 01/25/2012 4:42:16 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: F15Eagle
It came down during Clinton’s administration but Cheney gave the order in 1990. The order was given back then and took awhile to execute.

The program was resurrected in the mid-1990s by Congressional fiat (apparently Bobby Bird, D-KKK, was ticked that the USAF had lied to him about a forthcoming replacement platform when they shut the program down) and two airframes (967 and 971) were brought back into service. Upgrades included fitting of the real-time digital data link. However, Clinton killed the resurrected program using the line-item veto (during the short time prior to SCOTUS overturning it).

In reality, the villain of the first SR-71 termination was USAF CoS General Larry Welch. Allegedly due to having been rejected from the SR-71 program earlier in his career.
48 posted on 01/25/2012 4:47:16 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: F15Eagle
Are those numbers different than the three birds that went to NASA? One was the rare stepped-cockpit trainer as I understand.

NASA operated a number of SRs over the years, and even the YF-12 prototypes. The two reactivated SRs (967 and 971) were not NASA birds - they were the SRs that were held in "flyable reserve" (although it took a bit to get them flyable again) for the USAF after the program was first shut down.

NASA did have the surviving "B" trainer (956/NASA 831) operational to support the SRs it had in inventory. One of those SRs was 980 ... I believe it was being used in that cancelled ram/scramjet trial where the ram/scramjet was mounted on the rear fuselage.

There were four stepped-cockpit Blackbird trainers. First was the two-seat A-12 called the "Titanium Goose". Then the two SR-71Bs. When one of the "B"s was destroyed in a crash the USAF took the rear fuselage from the crashed YF-12, reworked the forward fuselage from an engineering test rig into a stepped-cockpit layout and mated the two together to produce the SR-71C. It had a VERY low number of total flight hours (less than 600, iirc) and was pretty quickly retired because the Frankenplane configuration didn't work so well and it flew horribly.
50 posted on 01/26/2012 4:23:04 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter; F15Eagle

The Blackbird was originally designated as the RS-71. When LBJ was first announcing the plane, he called it the SR-71 ( he didn’t use a teleprompter, obviously) and presto, it was immediately changed to SR-71.


52 posted on 01/26/2012 8:09:41 AM PST by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: F15Eagle

LOL..it sounds “cooler” ..because we’re used to it...I recall reading somewheres that many actually liked the original “RS” designation..it was shorthand for Rocket Ship...


54 posted on 01/26/2012 9:36:47 AM PST by ken5050 (The ONLY reason to support Mitt: The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will appear at the WH each Christmas)
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To: BenLurkin
This is what happens when your President ceases being an American and starts being a “citizen of the world”.

This is what happens when a defense contractor horribly overcharges for the product.
55 posted on 01/31/2012 9:45:01 AM PST by DesScorp
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